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Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« on: June 23, 2010, 05:55:49 PM »
I own a 1200 and I have a lot of problems to run some ECS and OCS games (even with the relokick disk), and I want to play these games in a real machine.
I know the best config is A500 with kick 1.3 but I prefer a 600 rather than classic 500 for two simple reasons:
- PCMCIA , for  use the PCMCIA-CF adapter and the SRAM expansion
- Small size : it's very easy to hide them :lol:, I don't have enough room.. and I don't live alone :laughing:

I think the 600 is more compatible than the 1200, and it's a good choice in my situation, but there are some revisions of the board.
Which are the best or more compatible revisions?
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 06:43:24 PM »
Put some serious consideration into installing WHDLoad on your 1200.
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 07:46:09 PM »
I've definitely had some problems with games on my A600 too, but I love its tiny footprint!
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 09:35:33 PM »
Quote from: spacerman;566754

- Small size : it's very easy to hide them :lol:, I don't have enough room.. and I don't live alone :laughing:


Good point! So true... :-D
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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 11:12:33 PM »
I have several A600s.  The only differences I've seen is in the IDE connector.  Those that shipped with a HD (Model A600HD) had all the pins, including the pin for the HD activity LED.  I have an A600 that was missing that same pin.  I have no idea why this was done.  After installing a HD, I also soldered in the missing pin and everything is fine.

Some of the keyboards "feel" better than others.  I like the ones with the clicky tactile feedback.
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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 11:28:01 PM »
However my A600 had all the pins.  Perhaps you were just unlucky?  It does seem odd.

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2010, 03:11:42 AM »
I think, if you want play 3 1/2 Disks Games, you will need any A500 REV 6 and external Floppy disk Unit.
But if you want use with WHDLOADd, i think the A600 are fine..
Now, i have many problems with any A2000 kicktart 2.0 with WDload Games and Demos.. then i am not sure if are the same with any A600
In the A1200 for me work everything fine, but the only thing is wich Acelerator Card you have, becouse with the 030s i haved problems, but with any 040, no problem..
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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2010, 04:24:53 AM »
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but the only thing is wich Acelerator Card you have, becouse with the 030s i haved problems, but with any 040, no problem..


While this may be true in your case, it is most commonly the exact opposite.
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2010, 04:40:50 AM »
I have an A600 (rev1.5) with Kickstart 3.1, 2 MB Chip memory and 4 MB Fast memory SRAM card and a 4 GB CF as HD. Most of the WHDLOAD games runs on this machine.

If you want also AGA, then you could try to find a CD32 with SX32. This will be the smallest Amiga with AGA, but very expansive.
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2010, 05:38:41 AM »
I have a Rev 2B board.  Thinking on how I just mistreated it and its still working I would say its a good board
 

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Re: Best Revisions of the Amiga 600 board
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2010, 12:24:52 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;566761
Put some serious consideration into installing WHDLoad on your 1200.

Many games on my 1200 present graphical glitches or serious corruptions  (Battle Squadron , Hybris,Venus the flytrap, Pang....)
 WHDLoad doesn't fix this problem for me. And I have other problems with the 1200 to transfer the games :furious: (I explain this in another reply)

Quote from: Drummerboy;566852
I think, if you want play 3 1/2 Disks Games, you will need any A500 REV 6 and external Floppy disk Unit.
But if you want use with WHDLOADd, i think the A600 are fine..
If I can hide the 500 in the closet, it's a good option :lol: ... The external floppy and the rev.6 are for something in special ?


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I have an A600 (rev1.5) with Kickstart 3.1, 2 MB Chip memory and 4 MB Fast memory SRAM card and a 4 GB CF as HD. Most of the WHDLOAD games runs on this machine.
Without graphical corruptions or other issues?

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I have a Rev 2B board.  Thinking on how I just mistreated it and its still working I would say its a good board
I read here:
http://amiga.resource.cx/mod/a600.html
The 2B is a revision with another version of Gayle. Any conflict with this board?
As I read in http://www.amiga600.de/whatneed.htm

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Be sure you have an Amiga with a main board revision 1.1. I have also heard from Tore Bjoernsen that he has managed to get the Apollo running with the newer rev 1.5 board. Most people however report problems with rev 1.3 boards (and so do I!). Unfortunately the rev 1.3 board seems to be the most frequent, so you may quite well have one of these. If you do and don't want to buy another A600 then better don't try to upgrade. The following picture shows the revision number sign on my A600 board. You will find the revision in the lower right hand corner of every A600's motherboard:
It's seems the better revision  is 1.1. The 1.5 can be fine, but 1.3 it's buggy.

If I buy another amiga I want to be sure, the model and the board revision
are the best to:

-Use of the PCMCIA cards if it's a 600
-Run without problems the 80-90% ECS-OCS games

Because actually I have a lot of problems to do so with my 1200.
I'm new in the Amiga, but I found very strange all the incompatibilities or problems I have found with my 1200.. I guess is a particular case and not a general situation. I don't know if my 1200 board is faulty, or probably it's a bad revision , it's a 1d4 board with a 3.0 kickstart, the one with the green wires soldered on the socket roms and I have a bunch problems, I'll try to explain and  summarize them on this list:

1-With this board I can only run 20-30% of the old games and another 20-30% extra with graphical corruptions, sometimes making it unplayable
2-Doesn't work the CF-adapter. I tried a lot of CF cards, different sizes, brands..none of them worked, but they worked fine with the internal IDE adapter.
3-The timing fix and the pcmcia fix for the 1d4 revision doesn't solve anything for me.
4-I tried to split the ADF images in two files at the PC, save them in 2 DD floppy and read the discs in the amiga, "glue" the two files, and write the resultant ADF to disk (I don't remember the utilities to do this at this moment, sorry). The result is a non-working disk, no matter the game or the utility disk it is.
5-The method to transfer the images through the paralel or serial port works but.. WTF!!!!!! :hammer: .This doesn't solve the incompatibilty of the games and I think if this is the only way for me to transfer and run the games.. I sell the 1200 and I buy a 500 :laughing:, it's the more comforting way to be sure that the games are going to work at 99%

I know another solution: mount the affs partition of the CF or HD disk on the Pc with linux and copy the new files everytime I want to add a new game or utility  but the 1200 got to be opened every time :furious: or I can make the HD external with a large IDE cable but this doesn't solve the incompatibilities.

At this time, the election is simple, a tiny 600 or a big 500 in a closet:roflmao: