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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2010, 11:47:11 AM »
2MB chip ram limit on 1200 and 4000, having an oboard simm socket with 2mb in as standard with the option to upgrade to 4MB or perhaps more would have been great. Perhaps then I could actually play games that expect to use all the chip ram like T-zero.
 
Black and white composite output on the 2000, seriously, why?
 
No scandoubler/flicker fixer in the 4000, a backwards step from the 3000
 
stupid yellowing plastic cases
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2010, 12:15:43 PM »
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make the damn floppy drive stop clicking!       
Noooooooo!  ;-)

Battery leaking - most definitely!

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #16 on: June 12, 2010, 12:20:03 PM »
Leaky batteries and electrolytic caps mounted with the wrong polarity are two issues that are far beyond pet hates, these are serious design/production flaws that can spell an untimely end to your machine.
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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #17 on: June 12, 2010, 04:11:14 PM »
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make the damn floppy drive stop clicking!


Hi,

Did you ever hear of the program called noclick.

I believe it came on some of the old Software Hut disks when you purchased something from them in the old days.

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #18 on: June 12, 2010, 04:12:26 PM »
huh. Learn something new every day :)
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #19 on: June 12, 2010, 04:36:39 PM »
Arrh leaking batteries; the bane of the big box Amiga and the A501.  Pitty they never looked at replacable CR2032s. How many Amigas would that have saved??

This one's not so much Amiga but software that wouldnt use DF1 for a second diskette. Grrr x 2
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2010, 04:41:18 PM »
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Hi,

Did you ever hear of the program called noclick.

I believe it came on some of the old Software Hut disks when you purchased something from them in the old days.

smerf


There are ways around many of the pet annoyances we have; the point is you have to use a program or work around for something that shouldn't be annoying in the first place. A1200 pcmcia cards do stick way out the side. You can tower your 1200 and use a right angle adaptor, but really commodore should have made the slot deeper into the machine like most laptops had.

My big pet peeve was always the wires. on a c64, or 500, 600, or 1200, you have a minimum of what 3 or 4 wires connected just for a functional machine. Yeah nice compact case but it is tethered with a web of cables :(
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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2010, 04:43:19 PM »
Hi,

@playgeneration,


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2MB chip ram limit on 1200 and 4000, having an oboard simm socket with 2mb in as standard with the option to upgrade to 4MB or perhaps more would have been great. Perhaps then I could actually play games that expect to use all the chip ram like T-zero.
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Can't really answer about the ram except that in those days ram was very expensive. Somehow Commodore saw expansion, and limited it to 2mb of ram. Probably an engineering design flaw, ask Mr. Haynie on this one. (Probably something planned for the future to make Commodore money).

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Black and white composite output on the 2000, seriously, why?
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I know that you are going to find this hard to believe, but Commodore brought out the A2000 to compete with the IBM business machine and Unix machines, back in those days Color monitors were very expensive and most business's used either B&W, Amber or Green monitors.

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No scandoubler/flicker fixer in the 4000, a backwards step from the 3000
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The original design had that and a lot more, Thanks to Mr. Ali on this one, he had the A4000 butchered to meet cost expenditures.

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stupid yellowing plastic cases

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Come on now, you guys will blame Commodore for everything, the yellowing case is actually your fault, you are the one that kept your machine out in the sunlight, now aren't you? I kept mine in a dark room with no lights, and my A1200 is still white. You have only yourself to blame for this one.

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2010, 04:50:03 PM »
actually commodore should have tested all their materials for 25 years to make sure they aged well. they should have realized their machines would still be in use in 2010 :)
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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2010, 05:12:36 PM »
no kerning, makes all of your printing look amaturish
 

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2010, 05:13:17 PM »
Hi,

@Kthunder,

The reason Commodore had the disk drive constantly running was to recognize the insertion of a disk, then it would automatically load. Thanks to a smart programmer he was able to shut down the drive, and still have it determine if a disk was inserted. Workaround emmm yes, but then when you reload the Amiga Os the machine was really fast because you didn't have to hit the OK on the Insert disk 2 question like you did on other machines.

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2010, 05:15:12 PM »
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no kerning, makes all of your printing look amaturish


Hi,

Ever try Final Copy or Final Copy II.

I was accused of having a laser printer back in the 80's because of these programs.

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2010, 05:19:48 PM »
Hi,

@ Karlos,

Once again Karlos, leaking battries is your fault, do you not check your car battery at least once a month for water, the reason you do this is so that the battery does not get hot from being dry and crack and leak the remaining acid out on your car. You should of read Commodores bulletin no. 234 on how to check your Amiga's battery, and bought the special refilling kit. This would have prevented this problem.

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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2010, 05:22:09 PM »
what about the kickstart 1.3 startup screen? so ugly..
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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2010, 05:47:29 PM »
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Hi,

@Kthunder,

The reason Commodore had the disk drive constantly running was to recognize the insertion of a disk, then it would automatically load. Thanks to a smart programmer he was able to shut down the drive, and still have it determine if a disk was inserted. Workaround emmm yes, but then when you reload the Amiga Os the machine was really fast because you didn't have to hit the OK on the Insert disk 2 question like you did on other machines.

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we all know the reasons behind a lot of these things, it doesn't make them any less annoying. we are all pointing out minor annoyances to our favorite computer and you are out on attack. relax geeze...
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Re: Classic Amiga Design Pet Hates
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 12, 2010, 06:00:46 PM »
I think my biggest pet peeve is that every time an A3000(T) or A4000(T) comes up for sale I'm short on funds :lol:.

Honestly I think the biggest peeve is that my LED cluster on the A2000 doesn't sit flush with the front panel.