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Offline amoskodare

AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« on: May 28, 2010, 09:38:02 PM »
Posted on A-Eon.com 27 May 2010

AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program

You may have read in various interviews that AmigaOS 4.1 has been booting to Workbench on the AmigaOne X1000 hardware for quite some time. We can also confirm that additional Nemo prototypes have been supplied to several OS4 developers to allow them to complete the necessary onboard hardware drivers (SATA, Ethernet and HD sound, USB is already mostly working). Meanwhile a revision 2 version of the Nemo motherboard is being finalised and to ensure we have the widest possible testing we are making 100 Rev 2 motherboards available to Beta testers under a special discount program.

We have received many request from Amigans who wish to join the Beta Test team and these will be processed by Hyperion-Entertainment who are coordinating the Beta Test program in conjunction with A-EON Technology.
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Offline Pyromania

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2010, 12:18:02 AM »
Nice news
 

Offline F1Lupo

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2010, 12:44:20 AM »
great news:)
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Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2010, 05:32:56 AM »
I searched all over the A-EON and Hyperion websites and could not find any information about the A1-X1000 Beta Test Team Program or its cost, or when it will start.

Does anyone have this information or know where to find it?  What is the discounted cost to participate in the Beta Test Team Program?
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Offline ssolie

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2010, 06:08:40 AM »
@amigadave
Basically, you email them and then you will get more details like cost, etc. There is no commitment until you sign an agreement. If you don't like the terms of the contract then don't sign and nothing is lost.

BTW, so far I haven't seen any agreement so I really can't say what it contains or doesn't contain yet. I did participate in the original Eyetech A1-XE program when it came out so I figure I'll look into this one as well.
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Offline dammy

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2010, 07:11:39 PM »
750 Euros deposit on a Dev mobo? Why didn't they just get the 100 Dev mobos and then advertise them to OS4 Devs and beta testers and skip the deposit?  Or is the required deposit more of a trial balloon to see what future sales are going to look like?  I do like the bit no one will be considered a end user if they are chosen.  Will that mean EU consumer laws do not apply?  I'll take a guess that will mean that the consumer release, those buying these Dev mobos will have to pay for that OS release.
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Offline ssolie

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2010, 12:00:05 AM »
Quote from: dammy;561927
Will that mean EU consumer laws do not apply?

Companies cannot just circumvent laws when they feel like it you know. Come on guys.
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Offline ssolie

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2010, 12:03:11 AM »
Quote from: amigadave;561835
Does anyone have this information or know where to find it?

Looks like Hyperion posted some information over at AmigaWorld.net now.
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Offline Methuselas

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2010, 09:07:02 AM »
For the "lazy" people:

@all

The beta program is intended for dedicated people with the following skillset:

- ability to assemble a full system with just a bare motherboard and memory provided to you

- ability to file accurate and detailed bugreports in a dedicated bugtracker (Bugzilla) in order to help AmigaOS 4 developers track down any remaining issues

- sufficient dedication and time to test newly developed components which are released on a daily basis (as is the case now for AmigaOS development and AmigaOS betatesters)

- adherence to the terms of a NDA as part of a larger contract which allows everyone to pull out with a full refund prior to actual shipping of the hardware

- a 750 euro deposit to attract the most dedicated people.

Note that you will NOT be considered an end-user if you are allowed into the betatest program.


The beta program is quite explicitly NOT intended for:

- people with limited knowledge of AmigaOS

- people with insufficient skills to assemble a system with a bare motherboard as a starting point

- people with insufficient time and dedication to carry out the required testing of software components and file bugreports against the appropriate AmigaOS components

- people who beieve that by signing up, they will learn the identity of the CPU or other undisclosed information which most likely will only be disclosed prior to shipping at which time they can bail out with a full refund if they don't like the specs

- people who do not intend to abide by the terms of the contract including the NDA provisions (which they can evaluate prior to signing or not signing) as this will not be taken lightly at all
 
This is a limited, closed betaprogram intended to ensure the best end-user experience possible.

Existing AmigaOS 4 betatesters have precedence over "newbies" and people with a development trackrecord will have precedence over people without such trackrecord. Other than that, it will be "first come, first served".


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Yeah, 750 euro "deposit" to test a sub-par OS on a motherboard, that is for all intents and purposes, an a) over priced motherboard based on specs that the *DEVELOPERS* wanted and b) not what the general public, ie the Amiga community, wanted.

I'm still waiting to get my 50$ back on a coupon for an OS I couldn't use, for a motherboard that I couldn't justify spending a ton of money on. When are you people gonna learn?

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Offline Methuselas

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 09:09:23 AM »
Quote from: ssolie;561968
Companies cannot just circumvent laws when they feel like it you know. Come on guys.


Tell that to Amiga Inc.......
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\'No, sorry. I don\'t get my tits out. They\'re not actually real, you know? Just two halves of a grapefruit...\' - Miki Berenyi

\'Evil will always triumph because good is dumb.\' - Dark Helmet :roflmao:

\'And for future reference, it might be polite to ask someone if you can  quote them in your signature, rather than just citing them to make a  sales pitch.\' - Karlos. :rtfm: (I didn\'t ask, obviously......) :lol:
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 09:16:26 AM »
*One hundred* boards (I read somewhere that it's actually half(!) of their planned initial production volume since they have ordered some 200+ CPU's) *sold* to consumers (but: "Note that you will NOT be considered an end-user if you are allowed into the betatest program"), with a hefty *750 EUR prepayment*(!! Do they never learn?), for a product still lacking the necessary onboard hardware drivers (OS4 USB drivers has been "almost working" for how many years now?).

If what they wanted would have been some help with beta testing, they could have provided a select few handfuls of competent "power users" with the product (by lending it to them, or giving it to them as a reward for their beta testing work), and the link to the bugzilla tracker, and they would be done! They probably already have a list of people they could have turned to since before.

This is nothing but a 75,000+ EUR fundraiser targeted to the broad public. They obviously need money (which is a bit troublesome in my eyes). So they sell their undeveloped thing by prepayment and the condition that you won't be treated as a consumer, you sign away your right to complain about the product, and they can sue you if you still do it in public. What a scheme...

(EDIT: I added a plus sign after the 200 number above, in order to prevent people from calling me a blatant liar. Of course my point still remains though; had they wanted aid in beta testing the thing, they could simply have provided boards to the usual beta testers. But this *enormous* volume, in combination that they are *selling* the boards, in combination with *pre-payment*, clearly suggests that this is something else than a beta tester program.)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 03:12:57 PM by takemehomegrandma »
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Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 09:24:04 AM »
Quote from: ssolie;561845
@amigadave

I did participate in the original Eyetech A1-XE program when it came out


That should have made you know better this time around IMO...

Quote
so I figure I'll look into this one as well.


...but obviously some people never learn. But hey, weren't you the guy who bought a "Troika Panda"? Ah, yes. Forget it then, I rest my case...
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Offline dammy

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 12:41:56 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;562012

This is nothing but a 75,000+ EUR fundraiser targeted to the broad public. They obviously need money (which is a bit troublesome in my eyes). So they sell their undeveloped thing by prepayment and the condition that you won't be treated as a consumer, you sign away your right to complain about the product, and they can sue you if you still do it in public. What a scheme...


Let us not forget this is JUST a DEPOSIT.  How much do you think A-EON wants, HALF down maybe?  So if it's half down, total discounted price of these Dev mobo will be 1,500 EUROs @ for Rev 3 CPU/mobo.
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Offline Akiko

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 01:07:47 PM »
See the trolls are hard at it!
 

Offline takemehomegrandma

Re: AmigaOne X1000 Beta Test Team and Program
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2010, 01:38:15 PM »
Quote from: Akiko;562040
See the trolls are hard at it!


Always interesting to see how some people (always the same people) gets upset, *not* with the fishy scheme laid out in front of them, but with the people pointing out the fishy details about it. "The trolls are hard at it", yeah right.

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