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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 28, 2010, 09:58:04 AM »
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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2010, 10:35:50 AM »
Once you get your head around the iPad as content-viewing device and not content-creation device, the iPad makes sense.  Once the newspapers and magazines, and book publishers get on board its popularity will grow. Murdoch has already said viewing newspapers online will not be free.
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2010, 03:22:31 PM »
Whats apple? whats ipad?
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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2010, 03:41:43 PM »
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Its a good thing no other company has its electronics manufactured in china.... wait.. oh.. awkward
 

The simple truth is.. people in the west want luxury goods for absurdly low prices. Those prices mean someone has to be exploited to produce said good.



OK now that isn't quite the correct focus here...  We are not to blame because we demand "Absurdly Low Prices"..   We have become ACCUSTOMED to a particular price point that has been created by companies trying to sell their wares and obtain a decent profit on them.  They are entitled to earning a profit, and the cutthroat business practices they employ cause a snowball effect that just keeps the prices at a very low point so we the public will buy.  NOBODY is going to pay twice as much for an item.   As long as there are people willing to work in what we consider poor conditions, there will be a company that will utilize them to further cut costs and sell their item to the public and make a better profit.  

In a perfect world, these factories would not be run in this manner, all companies would play fair, and the costs for a particular item would balance out at an appropriate price point. It would definitely be a higher price point and sales would also be fewer, but it would balance itself out.  

Unfortunately this isn't going to happen and companies are forced to do business in a world where it is becoming increasingly difficult to make a profit without going overseas...
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2010, 03:51:09 PM »
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Weird! :-o :) I should be more careful when eating deep fried balls of formless god-knows-what in a chinese restaurant. :(


Should get her to cook it at home where you can hand pick the ingredients ;)
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2010, 03:57:19 PM »
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Once you get your head around the iPad as content-viewing device and not content-creation device, the iPad makes sense.  Once the newspapers and magazines, and book publishers get on board its popularity will grow. Murdoch has already said viewing newspapers online will not be free.


Well he's the only one that thinks that, BBC news will always be free, and a little more professional compared to the toilet paper Murdoch sells to lowbrow commoners all over the UK as a newspaper :)

The iPad's biggest problem is the fact it is not running a proper full blown OS, it's too small for some tasks and too big for other tasks. Because it has an Apple badge it will sell. But ultimately instead of an OS X touch tablet I think this is a mistake.....except for them as the Appstore goes Kerchings many millions of times more an hour ;)
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #35 on: May 28, 2010, 04:00:02 PM »
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The simple truth is.. people in the west want luxury goods for absurdly low prices. Those prices mean someone has to be exploited to produce said good.


The only time I've seen remotely cheap Apple products is when they have a cracked screen!

Low prices <> Apple...they're the king of overcharging! There is plenty of scope within Apple's OTT profit margins to take their business elsewhere. We are not talking about cheap tacky ASUS netbooks here made on a hairline profit margin really.
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #36 on: May 28, 2010, 04:26:03 PM »
I would prefer that Apple, and in fact every company operating in the US, do all their manufacturing right here in the US. The story goes that US employees would refuse to work for low wages so product prices would increase. I would be okay with with paying higher prices for 100% domestic manufactuered goods though, as the social benefits would be immense. But I'm in the minority.

However what we would then see is the liberal outcry that jobs are being taken away from non-domestic workers overseas for whom unemployment may have much worse ramifications.

There is no win-win situation. Even if you replaced all manual labor with robots you would still have unions complaining.
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #37 on: May 28, 2010, 04:37:38 PM »
iPad is not worth a life...  but a pinkie maybe?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-20002958-71.html
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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #38 on: May 28, 2010, 04:39:58 PM »
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I would prefer that Apple, and in fact every company operating in the US, do all their manufacturing right here in the US. The story goes that US employees would refuse to work for low wages so product prices would increase. I would be okay with with paying higher prices for 100% domestic manufactuered goods though, as the social benefits would be immense. But I'm in the minority.

However what we would then see is the liberal outcry that jobs are being taken away from non-domestic workers overseas for whom unemployment may have much worse ramifications.

There is no win-win situation. Even if you replaced all manual labor with robots you would still have unions complaining.


I would (and do) happily pay over twice the price for Fair Trade products.  It would be nice to have this option for all electronics.  The fact is that "inflation" is almost flat (in the US) only because electronics keep dropping in price while many necessities (such as food) go up.  Electronics are now absurdly low in price and the average Westerner apparently has an insatiable appetite for gadgets that most don't really need -- or even want 1-2 years down the road.  Every purchase you make is an ethical choice, like it or not.
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #39 on: May 28, 2010, 05:24:56 PM »
Karlos,

Thank you for posting this.. I have not purchased items manufactured in China for over 10years now....not an easy task to say the least.  

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Ok. I don't like apple a great deal, that is no secret. However, I know that a lot of people buy into their vision and the queues outside apple stores suggest many people don't share my opinion.

There was a lot of buzz over the iPad recently. Personally I don't see the point of it. To my mind, it's the least useful intersection possible between the iPhone and a notebook. There are no applications it can run that a notebook can't run faster, neither is it a phone or a convenient mobile form factor for GPS etc. Anyway, these are all technical reasons I think it's a pile of hyped up overgrown ipod touch.

So, I must have been living in a vacuum lately because somehow I missed this story. If the above criticism of the iPad doesn't put you off (and let's face it, if you like apple stuff, it won't), I am sure this will:

Courtesy of the torygraph...



It would seem that the people there are simply being driven mad by the stress of working conditions:



I think we got too used to the idea that sweatshops were all busy making sports clothing and footballs...

To be fair to Apple, Foxconn don't just make their stuff; many hardware companies are happy to delegate their production to them.

I just thought apple, with their self-aggrandizing "cult of better" hyperbole might "think different" when it comes to sweatshop labour. I guess not.
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #40 on: May 28, 2010, 08:17:42 PM »
Apple products really look cheap compared to an X1000...


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The only time I've seen remotely cheap Apple products is when they have a cracked screen!

Low prices <> Apple...they're the king of overcharging! There is plenty of scope within Apple's OTT profit margins to take their business elsewhere. We are not talking about cheap tacky ASUS netbooks here made on a hairline profit margin really.
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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #41 on: May 28, 2010, 09:27:16 PM »
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Apple products really look cheap compared to an X1000...

I think you forgot to encase your post in tags. An X1000 "same tower design since 1990" garage-a-tronics case up against an aluminum 27" iMac in terms of quality of construction and design aesthetics? Wow...

 
 

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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #42 on: May 28, 2010, 09:33:42 PM »
Interesting point, looking at the design you'd expect the Mac to be much more expensive, yet of course it's the X1000 that is...

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I think you forgot to encase your post in tags. An X1000 "same tower design since 1990" garage-a-tronics case up against an aluminum 27" iMac in terms of quality of construction and design aesthetics? Wow...
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Re: How are you liking that new iPad? To die for, is it?
« Reply #43 on: May 28, 2010, 09:43:08 PM »
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Interesting point, looking at the design you'd expect the Mac to be much more expensive, yet of course it's the X1000 that is...

I am out of the loop on the X1000 but like the current "Amiga" systems out, I don't see how it is going to sell with a price point north of an iMac or any other computer out there. The nostalgia thing can only go so far.