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What is this worth ?
« on: May 27, 2010, 08:00:12 PM »
Hi all,
 
I recently got my hands on a big load of Amiga stuff, including this:
http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=1725

 
It's a G2 Systems Broadcast Videocenter VC3 and I have no idea what the value of such a system is, but I would like to know.
 
I have the 19" rack panel, the mixer as on the photo and the Genesys mixer including cables and that green manual.
And edit: I found that flyer as well.
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 08:18:57 PM »
Just throw it up on eBay with low start and no reserve and you'll find out. That's what most "how much is this worth" requests are trying to get an idea of, how much can they ask when selling...

If you intend keeping it, then it's obsolete and worth sod all anyway. :D
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2010, 11:51:16 AM »
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Just throw it up on eBay with low start and no reserve and you'll find out. That's what most "how much is this worth" requests are trying to get an idea of, how much can they ask when selling...


Worst advice possible.

Until ebay pulls their socks up and ban all those moronic and rule breaching bid sniper sites forget about that kind of 99p start no reserve horse feathers :)

All you get is people winning your stuff for less than the it's worth the effort of posting most of the time as nobody actually bids properly due to ebay slacking on disabling bid sniping. Yahoo auctions had a lovely 'floating' end time, bids in the last 5 minutes would extend the auction time by another 10 or 15...nice.

Stick it up for what YOU want with as much detail you can and an honest textual and pictorial representation as to its working condition. Then just add a 'Best Offers' function and stick it up for 30 days and see if anything happens.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2010, 11:53:50 AM »
It's value is very little, if any. Video components are seriously outdated, who would ever use this these days?
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2010, 12:54:35 PM »
Well everything analogue is outdated these days sure, but technical ability (which is still superior to any Mac/PC card that deals with analogue live video) is not really linked to value.  

Point is if he puts it up for 99p it will sell for that whether it's worth more or not, which was really my point.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2010, 06:10:38 PM »
What is "bid sniping" ?
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2010, 06:14:30 PM »
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What is "bid sniping" ?
People that wait until the last few seconds to put their maximum bid in. Good for the buyer, bad for the seller. I never knew Yahoo! Auctions extended the timing if someone pulled that stunt. Problem is, ePay has fostered this kind of worthless behavior. Sellers selling busted junk for too much money is another factor, which solidifies wanting to get a "good" deal on used wares bought there. Never fails. Your auction will sit there forever, with little to no activity, then during the last few hours, someone will bid. Closer to the end, people go nuts. Pretty aggravating all the way around.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2010, 10:32:07 PM »
Hey if people want to stay up until 3am to make a last second bid in person all credit to them :)  

But there are companies that do this for you, and for this to work you have to give them your user ID AND password and they remotely put in the last second bids for you automatically before the end of the auction. Clearly this is a breach of ebay member guidelines, but like you say ebay couldn't give a rats ass about sellers, they have hardly any effective competition these days.

I totally agree there is a lot of 'untested' junk out there, but at the same time it has become normal behaviour and even if I took 20 extremely high resolution pictures and combined it with a very detailed and honest description for something genuinely rare people still wouldn't bid properly. You don't go to car auctions or liquidation auctions and see nobody bid until the second before the auctioneer hits the desk for the third time with his gavel/hammer ;)

Catch 22, which is why I rarely use ebay as a seller any more.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2010, 11:08:41 PM »
it seems the recent trend is to put things up on ebay as

"tested 100%.....at least it worked 20 years ago when my brother propably used it"
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2010, 01:35:57 AM »
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it seems the recent trend is to put things up on ebay as

"tested 100%.....at least it worked 20 years ago when my brother propably used it"


I remember 3 years ago I sold a huge collection of Atari VCS stuff, genuinely it was working when last used and when the guy came to collect everything as I quickly set up the machine. Few weeks later he told me the actual 2600 had stopped working and could I help, given the amount of cash he paid I was happy to swap out the console and swap it with a spare of the same age/condition I had.

Thing is, if something goes for 10 euros I am in no mood to mess about because it actually stopped working, especially if it is a 30 year old VIC-20 or something :)

So it's still catch22 really.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2010, 04:18:14 AM »
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People that wait until the last few seconds to put their maximum bid in. Good for the buyer, bad for the seller. I never knew Yahoo! Auctions extended the timing if someone pulled that stunt. Problem is, ePay has fostered this kind of worthless behavior. Sellers selling busted junk for too much money is another factor, which solidifies wanting to get a "good" deal on used wares bought there. Never fails. Your auction will sit there forever, with little to no activity, then during the last few hours, someone will bid. Closer to the end, people go nuts. Pretty aggravating all the way around.


I love it.  If you don't want to get sniped, then bid the max you're willing to pay.
 

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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2010, 08:10:13 AM »
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Worst advice possible.

Until ebay pulls their socks up and ban all those moronic and rule breaching bid sniper sites forget about that kind of 99p start no reserve horse feathers :)

All you get is people winning your stuff for less than the it's worth the effort of posting most of the time as nobody actually bids properly due to ebay slacking on disabling bid sniping. Yahoo auctions had a lovely 'floating' end time, bids in the last 5 minutes would extend the auction time by another 10 or 15...nice.


Sniping - The action of setting a Proxy bid in the last few seconds of an auction.

You are only pissed because someone comes a long in the last few seconds and bids HIGHER than you.  Dont want to lose, Bid higher.

If Yahoo was better because another bid extended the auction, then by all means go and use Yahoo Auctions.
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2010, 08:11:37 AM »
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I love it.  If you don't want to get sniped, then bid the max you're willing to pay.


Indeed, people dont seem to understand the concept that Sniping is merely a PROXY bid in the last few seconds.

Person with the HIGHEST PROXY, wins.
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Re: What is this worth ?
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2010, 08:31:01 AM »
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People that wait until the last few seconds to put their maximum bid in. Good for the buyer, bad for the seller. I never knew Yahoo! Auctions extended the timing if someone pulled that stunt. Problem is, ePay has fostered this kind of worthless behavior. Sellers selling busted junk for too much money is another factor, which solidifies wanting to get a "good" deal on used wares bought there. Never fails. Your auction will sit there forever, with little to no activity, then during the last few hours, someone will bid. Closer to the end, people go nuts. Pretty aggravating all the way around.

Yeah annoying, aggravating, makes you wanna :uzi:
That's why I try to get a CSIII 060/233 @ Amibay, but even there they manage to up to insane prices.
I'm not going to fall for it, I'll wait for someting else to come along or someone who hands me decent offer.
 
It still happens, a few weeks ago I got an A4000/030, 2 1200 boards, one of them being a 1D4 and the other a 2B rev, PSU 4000 /1200, 2 monitors, Workbench books and this little thing above for nothing / free.
I didn't want to take it for free, so I donated 50 euros, which was my last money I had at the moment.
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