I don't think i need your permission to answer to your observations.
No, but you do need to be civil. See, I was civil in my first post. You "zealots" (since you seem to not like being called that) accused me of being negative, when there was nothing negative in my first post, at all.
Quake 3 has been ported for both MorphOS and OS4. The GL support in MorphOS is more mature, more performant and in any case good enough for something like Quake 3 (but still it's "only" at OpenGL 1.5 level or so). But even MiniGL can deal with Quake 3, anyway.
Once again, we're back to sharing between the camps, something none of you seem willing to do. If MorphOS has a more "mature" (I'm not a coder, so once again, this is all speculation) OpenGL than OS4, why didn't your camp offer it up, to help merge the alternative Amiga Operating Systems together? Oh, 'cos you're in the Blue camp and they're the Red camp. It's impossible for you to work with one another.....
Let's just ignore this part, since it's based on false assumptions.
Really, and what part of my comment is based on "false assumptions". It's common knowledge that the MorphOS and Hyperion refuse to work together for the common good.
Tread lightly, Sir. You're dangerously close to libeling me.....
Yes, i coded the plugin, as well as the plugin support in the browser going with it (OWB). And like you pointed out, sources are indeed available for whoever would like to see this on 3.x, OS4 or AROS. But i don't see why i should feel bad because i haven't ported it to other platforms. Motivated developers can always adapt (or recompile) my sources and even get some help with that. If there's noone motivated for that, it just means these platforms are dead, or too proud to use evil "alien" code. And for instance, on OS4, they set up a bounty for Gnash more than 1 year ago, so it would be rather weird to release a concurrent solution and "ruin" the efforts of a bounty, anyway.
This is a joke, right? Are you really *THAT* much of an elitist?? Yes, "motivated developers" can always adapt (or recompile) your sources and even get some help with that (sic), but if there's no one motivated for that, it means the platforms are dead or too proud to use evil, "alien" code, when in reality it really means that in your eyes, every Amiga Alternative is a "dead platform" *EXCEPT* for MorphOS. That simply is *NOT* the case and no matter how much you want to take the "blue pill", you can't deny it, as there is software development for every Amiga OS out there, but few, if any, are ever done to support them all.
I know I'm *WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY* off base here, 'cos it's a common misconception that two bullies on a playground won't like each other, but has any one, from *ANY* camp ever tried to start porting applications that *ALL* the Amiga flavors could use and in a way that they could be used across one another? I do have to drop Aros and Classic 3.9 from this list, as they are X86 and 68k respectively and not compatible with PPC. Do the Blue and Red camps really hate one another so much??
I'm even going to push it a stretch further. Did you ever stop and think that maybe if you simply asked and said, "Hey, I coded the flash plugin for MorphOS, it's better than anything we have right now, so since there's a need for it on OS4, would anyone be willing to loan me an OS4 machine to port the plugin to OS4"? I bet you would be surprised at the answer.
I wonder why you are so upset in your posts, really.
Who said I'm upset? I merely made a comment based on my opinion and the only thing following it, sans JJ's comments whom I agreed with, were wholly negative. You're a MorphOS developer and this was a news article on an OS4 port, so why do you care? In addition, why are you so upset with my rebuttals? Seems to go both ways, doesn't it, Sir?
My original answer was just a factual correction to some of your observations, and you jump on me like an atheist, labelling me as a zealot.
And mine, stating that all the Amiga flavors needed new software wasn't? My point in using Quake III as a reference was that it was newer and more advanced than Quake II. I'd also like to state that while my first comment seemed rather vague (you'll have to forgive me for that - I sometimes forget that a lot of users on Amiga.org don't use English as a First Language), so when I came back to clarify, I get jumped on because it's not what I "wanted". I could care less about Quake II and you want to know why? Because I'll play Quake IV or Doom 3 on my PC that I have to use every day, for work. You know what my Amiga does? Nothing, but collect dust, because everything I need to do on a daily basis I can do on my PC better, faster and more efficient and I built it for *LESS* than I would pay for the X1000.
Actually, that's not true. I've since dusted it off, as I'm using it to sequence the music I'm writing for BTBuilder, via OctaMED Sound Studio.
Finally, I never called you an Atheist. I made a reference to a former user on here *NAMED* Atheist. Fab, you joined *WAY* late to have had the pleasure of meeting him, but he was a zealot in the extreme. He was a negative influence on the Amiga Community and Amiga.org, having long since been banned from here.
You are, however, a zealot for MorphOS. Your comments about your flash plugin only prove that, but I do commend you for your efforts and thank you on behalf of the MorphOS users. Then again, I don't use MorphOS. I also don't use OS4.
But I am still an Amigan and I've done a lot to support the Community over the years. I'm just tired of the splinter cells.
I want Aros and OS4 to have Ambient, which is such a gorgeous piece of kit. Seriously, I commend you guys on that. Every screenshot or video of MorphOS just makes me drool and feel bad on how drab OS4 and Aros look in comparison.
I want JAVA support for Aros, OS4, MorphOS and Classic 3.9. Why? Why not? It's a modern feature that almost all computers need now. I want flash support for all of them too.
I want Timberwolf on Aros and MorphOS, too. I don't know if it would run on a classic system, to be honest.
I want MorphOS, Aros and OS4 to use the same API (or at least be compatible in some way), so porting games to the Amiga flavors becomes a bit easier for all and *EVERYONE* gets to enjoy them.
I love the fact that the MorphOS team provided us with *CHEAP* hardware, via a macmini port, something Hyperion said could never be done. (Learn well here, Hyperion. Cheaper hardware means more sales. MorphOS learned that real quick and once they port to the macbook laptops, I might actually pick a side....)
Most of all, I want all this camp BS to stop. There can't be a single news article, forum post or whatever, without one of the red, blue, grey or checkered meanies (OS4, MorphOS, Aros or Classic) jumping in to start a flame war or to pick a fight. Is that really what this community has become?
Do you get it now? Have I made my point *PERFECTLY* clear? This is the interwebz. Logic and reason usually fly out the window, but most of all, it's hard to discern emotion and sarcasm in a post.
I was never being negative in the slightest about this update and while I appreciate that he fixed the code for all the OS4.1 users, I wish he had used that time to code something that could have bettered *ALL* of the "camps" (a term I've always disliked) in some way or another.
Then again, I must be foolish to think that the Amiga Community could ever again be what it was like back in the Nineties....
BTW, tell Bill McEwen that he still owes me 50$ for the coupon scam and that Anti Gravity owes me my pre-order for the Boxer.
-M
