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Offline kolla

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2010, 04:02:22 AM »
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-Search function, even with integrated  pull down menu works
Are you here talking about the "Find" from the "Window" menu, or something else? I replaced SYS:System/Find with one of the many similar programs on aminet.

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-Icon information works much like rawbinfo (but not exactly the same way)
Well, that's just the original info window from workbench.library, with its missing "pure" and "hold" ticks, insanely large window etc. Would love to see it updated, file flags added, display version, md5sum, resizable window...

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-HDToolbox with large drives works (did a simple trick)
Which HDToolbox? I ask since the OS3.9 one uses Reaction, so I've only used 40.4 from OS3.1.


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As I said, I am having problems with datatypes, but I hope to fix that soon.


Which datatypes? I use datatype.library 44.47 and picture.datatype 42.1 from aminet, and 3.1 datatypes or whatever I find on aminet that works. amigaguide.library 45.5 works, 45.6 doesnt.

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The same goes with the TCP-IP stack, and deficons (which hopefully will work).


I have Miami myself, and never really thought of deficons :)

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@kolla
It could be great if you could help me a bit. I am so near of having most of 3.9 components working.


I'm not sure what you need help with :)
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Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #30 on: May 17, 2010, 05:28:04 AM »
@kolla

Regarding the Find command on the system drawer and menu, I did the same as you have done. RAWBInfo was replaced by wbinfo29 (on Aminet), which works similarly (it requires mui though). HDtoolbox is better replaced with HDInst 6.9 (on Aminet), which works great (hdwrench.library is not needed anymore, you can delete it).

Thanks for your tip on datatypes, I will follow what you did.
DefIcons, hopefully can be tweaked to work with GlowIcons (I really dont know), but without the prefs GUI (get it from newicons46 on Aminet).

In relation to the TCP-IP stack, Genesis wont work as it requires the dreaded 020+ resource.library. But, the mui genesis demo (on Aminet) should work. Anyway AmiTCP is always a good backup option.

So, I hope I get a couple of issues solved by now. I will get back later with hopefully less issues and more solutions. :)
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #31 on: May 22, 2010, 07:30:08 AM »
BoingBag 4 got updated (version 0.2c):

-Updated icon.library to 46.4.163 (New optimized DrawIconStateA() function and some small tweaks)
-Filenames are now in proper lowercase

If you already have another BB4 version installed, simply install this one over the old one.

For downloads and information visit: http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net
« Last Edit: October 15, 2010, 03:23:56 AM by Gulliver »
 

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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #32 on: May 22, 2010, 07:59:44 AM »
>Another thing... even with the new graphics.library I save ~160k of chipram by using fblit on my A1200.

Please, Kolla, try FBlit with F_AbbBob & R_RemIBob disable and watch if you save ~160k of chipram again ?!

I wanna be sure...

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2010, 09:13:53 PM »
BoingBag 4 has been updated to 0.7d

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm
 

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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2010, 10:42:13 PM »
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BoingBag 4 has been updated to 0.7d

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/bbag4.htm


Very nice! thank you very much! What is new specifically? I looked at the list of updated components for BB4, but didn't see a changelog.
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Offline kolla

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2010, 11:49:18 PM »
It seems that BB4 has two versions of datatypes.library, both 44.47 (in files3/libs) and 44.48 (in files1/libs) - files3 is the dir with 020+ optimized binaries, right?

@Cosmos
I'm sorry - I never got around to test it out, I'll try again :)
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Offline Templario

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2010, 11:53:10 PM »
Thank you, because for me update the icon.ibrary lastly with the new updates is impossible although I have the library version for it.
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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2010, 12:58:20 AM »
Hi:
Only one question: Which chip ram do you get with BB4 in an A1200 and if possible compared to chip ram with BB2?
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2010, 01:38:20 AM »
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Very nice! thank you very much! What is new specifically? I looked at the list of updated components for BB4, but didn't see a changelog.


from 0.7c to 0.7d, just the inclusion of FastFilesystem 45.16 (read the changelog in the included readme).
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2010, 01:41:39 AM »
@kolla
You are right, not only datatypes.library, but also diskfont.library. Now it is fixed. Thank you!

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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2010, 10:57:07 AM »
Hi again:
This are the results in an A1200 upgrading from BB2 to BB4 (I've just done it):
 
BB2 Chip Ram: 1.416Kb (69%)
BB3 Chip Ram: 1.135 (55%)
BB4 Chip Ram: 1.170 (57%)
 
Ok, you get 2% more from BB3 to BB4, but tell me, Why must I loose 12% from BB2 to BB4? Where's my benefit?
Ok, I'm only looking one thing, but, do I gain or loose?
« Last Edit: October 27, 2010, 11:28:09 AM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.
 

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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2010, 08:16:41 PM »
Slight OT: May I ask how one can build his own "AmigaOS ROM Update" file which combines a multitude of resident modules in just one file? I would like to built my own version instead of using the LoadModule command for all the replacement files. Is there a tool for it?
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2010, 08:22:44 PM »
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Slight OT: May I ask how one can build his own "AmigaOS ROM Update" file which combines a multitude of resident modules in just one file? I would like to built my own version instead of using the LoadModule command for all the replacement files. Is there a tool for it?


You should contact Doobrey and ask him to support that build option inside his Remus program.

http://www.doobreynet.co.uk/
 

Offline GulliverTopic starter

Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2010, 08:28:47 PM »
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Hi again:
This are the results in an A1200 upgrading from BB2 to BB4 (I've just done it):
 
BB2 Chip Ram: 1.416Kb (69%)
BB3 Chip Ram: 1.135 (55%)
BB4 Chip Ram: 1.170 (57%)
 
Ok, you get 2% more from BB3 to BB4, but tell me, Why must I loose 12% from BB2 to BB4? Where's my benefit?
Ok, I'm only looking one thing, but, do I gain or loose?


What matters, probably in your config, regarding chipmem usage, is your updated rom modules. They give you lots of benefits, including very large harddisk support, fixed ram disk space, faster and better behaved  scsi.device, etc.

I know chipram is precious, but fastmem is way better ;)

BTW: Have you tried using env-handler to reduce your chipmem usage?
 

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Re: AmigaOS 3.9 BoingBag #4
« Reply #44 from previous page: October 27, 2010, 11:12:42 PM »
Well, I've just tried env-handler, installed it on C and disabled the commands it says and the chip ram is the same (in fact, I loose some kbs).
 
" They give you lots of benefits, including very large harddisk support, fixed ram disk space, faster and better behaved scsi.device, etc."
 
In fact, I'm upgrading with a Transcend 32Gb CF and an internal Cd that I had working flawlessly using Smart File System and a cracked Idefix under BB2. I don't wanna be the pessimist here, it must be the benefits are in things I've never had problems before, like that ram disk space... But where I can start to have problems is in any Game or program needing enough chip ram.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2010, 01:25:12 AM by Retrofan »
A1200, Lateral 32GB CF, internal Dvd, ACA 1230/56 with an MKII Fast ATA at 9,5Mb/s, another A1200 BPPC project in progress (more or less), and posting from my own/better C64x in my Tv using Hdmi.