SX32-Pro worth?

[AmigaFun]

Hi all.

My question is a simple one I think. What would you pay for a SX32-PRO with HD, 16MB ram?

I realise they maybe 'rare', and it's only worth what some one is prepaired to pay. But in my view it it just an 030 accelerator card that on it's very own is perhaps worth £100, the HD, £5, and an extra £100 premium for the fact it's for a CD32 and has the extra ports etc.

What do you all think?

I think >£500 is just too much. (exchange rate accepted)

Mart

[Boudicca]

Hi all.

My question is a simple one I think. What would you pay for a SX32-PRO with HD, 16MB ram?

I realise they maybe 'rare', and it's only worth what some one is prepaired to pay. But in my view it it just an 030 accelerator card that on it's very own is perhaps worth £100, the HD, £5, and an extra £100 premium for the fact it's for a CD32 and has the extra ports etc.

What do you all think?

I think >£500 is just too much. (exchange rate accepted)

Mart

TBH, your right the first time it is worth whatever someone wants to pay. For example I sold something I picked up for 2 quid at car boot, not very long ago (not Amiga).

To me, its worth 2 quid, to the dealer 2 quid, to everyone I spoke to about it, it was worth 2 quid or next to Zero to make no odds, but at the auction it was worth 139 quid and the guy who ended up buying it had offered to take it off ebay for 150....early.

To him it was a bargain and worth every penny and he thinks he got it cheap as its sells new in a box for 500 quid, but to me its still worth 2 quid and theres one born every minute depending on what and where.

If you think its worth 500 (you must do as you said so!) try to sell if for 500 quid, you never know but you might just have to re-list until you get a bite. Thats Fleabay for you.

[AmigaFun]

The trouble is nowdays everyones an expert. I think gone are the days of picking a true bargain in 'fleabay'. Bootfares are going the same way, some sellers are expecting you to carry +£100 for some rotton laptop.

Problem is, I feel as if I would be insulting the seller if I offered him/her what I think it's worth. Have Amiga prices all gone out of kilter? After all, it's hardware thats getting on a bit now, but don't get me wrong, I love the Amiga, but when you are trying to re-live your youth, and looking for stuff you could not afford when all you had was a paper round, and find said stuff for sale on 'fleabay' going for silly money IN 2010, it's still out of reach!!

Fair play to the sellers though.

edit: I just remembered, some years back, maybe 5 years, I remember a A4000 in bits at boot sale, just laying in a cardboard box with toot all around it. The seller wanted +100 for it. Cheek of it!

[Boudicca]

The trouble is nowdays everyones an expert. I think gone are the days of picking a true bargain in 'fleabay'. Bootfares are going the same way, some sellers are expecting you to carry +£100 for some rotton laptop.

Problem is, I feel as if I would be insulting the seller if I offered him/her what I think it's worth. Have Amiga prices all gone out of kilter? !

Not true, Fleabay is full of bargains. Just the buy now button is simpler for most people.

Never worry about the sellers feeling's as they are crying all the way to the bank.

[Akiko]

The SX-32 Pro has consistantly sold for around the £300-£400 mark on eBay for years, I think £500 is a tad expensive but not a totally unrealistic price.

[AmigaFun]

But that is where the problem I think lays, in the buy it now. If it's an auction then it reflects the true worth of an item as you have may have multiple buyers for the same thing, where as a buy it now, the seller may set an artificially high price therefore cutting out a lot of prespective buyers. So I think this has an effect of driving up the cost of antique hardware.

It's just a thought really about the market for Amiga stuff at the moment.

[Tripitaka]

IMHO I consider that if you are the seller it is worth whatever someone else will pay for it. On my last count the SX32 Pro with 8Mb of RAM and a 540Mb HDD came in at €608.28, that's over £500. End of!

At over £500, if I had one I'd be putting it on ebay right now.

Now if some clever person could make an SX32 Pro clone at a proper price, that people who don't have huge cash reserves and/or an Amiga addiction that conquers the need to eat, can afford, then I might be able to buy one. That would be nice.

[tone007]

What would make the high price "artificial?" It's real money, and it's what the seller wants for their item.  If one person is willing to pay that much, there are probably others who are as well, and the ones who wouldn't pay that much are of no consequence (unless the seller is accepting offers,) and do not affect the "value" of the item.  If it doesn't sell, the price was obviously too high.

An SX32pro isn't like a gallon of milk you can just walk into the supermarket and buy at the fair going rate, there are bound to be a bunch of people interested in just one item as yes, they are pretty rare.  Chances are if you lowball the guy, he'll just laugh and sell it to someone who wants it more.

[AmigaFun]

@Tripitaka

Yea, I hear what you are saying, and thats what I said at the top of the thread. I think the exchange rate does not help in anyway though and that plays a big part in this.

I don't think it would be too hard for someone who is clever with this sort of thing to make a SX32 pro clone, it would be great if they did because the CD32 is just crippled on it's own.

[Boudicca]

A rare horse, a rare car, a welsh rarebit. Something rare isn't always something valued.(My Wisdom for the day)

[AmigaFun]

An SX32pro isn't like a gallon of milk you can just walk into the supermarket and buy at the fair going rate, there are bound to be a bunch of people interested in just one item as yes, they are pretty rare.  Chances are if you lowball the guy, he'll just laugh and sell it to someone who wants it more.

That is a good point, and well made. Though I know you just can't go down the road and buy one, and no matter how rare this item is, the SX32-Pro just cant compete with an 040 in an A1200. So the high price of these in general just does not make sense.

example here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280498557874&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

What I mean by 'artificial', IMO an 030 card of anysort is just not worth >£500, so that to me that is an artificial price. But, if it's in an auction then the price is set by the people actually bidding on it.

[AmigaFun]

A rare horse, a rare car, a welsh rarebit. Something rare isn't always something valued.(My Wisdom for the day)

I think you have something there!

[recidivist]

Uniqueness can be a strong selling point.
If you are a  would-be buyer who just wants the functionality of the SX-32 Pro ,then the collectors' value is a bother to you.If you are whining about the SX32Pro being less functional than some other cheaper solution,then why not use that other solution?Unless you are hoping to get the rare item for a price based on functionality  and then also have bragging rights to  a rare item.
 I  admit to wanting an SX32Pro myself but recognize that rare collectibles will be bought by those with way more money than me;just as I found myself being outbid on old radios in eBay auctions by rocker Joe Walsh.
 I'd love to see someone market a modernised CD32 expansion  unit equal to,nay superior to, the SX32Pro.It would seem that if  a C64 could be made in a joystick .....

[AmigaFun]

Uniqueness can be a strong selling point.
If you are a  would-be buyer who just wants the functionality of the SX-32 Pro ,then the collectors' value is a bother to you.If you are whining about the SX32Pro being less functional than some other cheaper solution,then why not use that other solution?Unless you are hoping to get the rare item for a price based on functionality  and then also have bragging rights to  a rare item.
 I  admit to wanting an SX32Pro myself but recognize that rare collectibles will be bought by those with way more money than me;just as I found myself being outbid on old radios in eBay auctions by rocker Joe Walsh.
 I'd love to see someone market a modernised CD32 expansion  unit equal to,nay superior to, the SX32Pro.It would seem that if  a C64 could be made in a joystick .....

I am not whining about the functionality of the SX32, it is an amazing bit of engineering. Nor am I interested in bragging rights to a rare item.
I am looking at this sensibly. How can the SX32 PRO, no matter how rare, cost more than a A1200 with Blizzard 030/50 together? Financialy, it's a no brainer.

As mentioned previously in this thread, if someone could do a SX32 clone, then that would be magic.

[Robert17]

I bought a whole SX32 System for around £300 about a year ago, I also had an SX32 on it's own once, and sold it for around £260 as far as I remember, I'd consider those prices to be reasonable, and like you guys say, it is a rare and good piece of kit :-)

Robert