Make a case for x86 Amiga OS

[ElPolloDiabl]

Let's stop bothering the X1000 people heat up this thread instead. No personal attacks. Make a case for or against your preferred platform.



I think BeOS had years to make an impact on PowerPC and got nowhere. It only picked up fans when it went x86. Amiga OS should do likewise.

Because most people (a majority) need an x86 system for work or study it's more convenient to use x86.

[the_leander]

Cost, performance, availability.

Even if you limited yourself to say the VIA Mini-itx form factor for driver support reasons, you're still going to be in a hell of a lot better shape then the market currently is.

And a 1.6Ghz Nano will monster just about any PPC going.

/thread.

[mdv2000]

If there was an x86 based Amiga OS, I would port/develop applications for it.  I am software developer by trade and it wasn't even until Apple went Intel that we started getting customers that owned Macs.  They still need to run windows and a dual booting MacBook is a sweet thing.  

Also, by going to x86 based Amiga, we could get a Java JVM for it and that would open the flood gates of applications and tools to use.  Amiga OS working with a good implementation of Java would be a very desirable.

I agree I would at first limit to a subset motherboard and processor for initial driver support... but once its moved to x86, I think the sheer number of people wanting something new and original to work with could move the OS to a really influential install base.

[bloodline]

If there was an x86 based Amiga OS, I would port/develop applications for it.  I am software developer by trade and it wasn't even until Apple went Intel that we started getting customers that owned Macs.  They still need to run windows and a dual booting MacBook is a sweet thing.  

Also, by going to x86 based Amiga, we could get a Java JVM for it and that would open the flood gates of applications and tools to use.  Amiga OS working with a good implementation of Java would be a very desirable.

I agree I would at first limit to a subset motherboard and processor for initial driver support... but once its moved to x86, I think the sheer number of people wanting something new and original to work with could move the OS to a really influential install base.

Do all that stuff for AROS!!!

[recidivist]

Having purchased several copies of Amiga Forever (so that each machine has its own licensed copy),I kind of feel that I already have several  x86-based  classic Amigas!

 Since the really unique thing about Amiga hardware was the ease of interfacing and using standard NTSC/PAL video out of the box,AND since those video standards have been retired by governments order' ,Amiga has little to lose by following at least the Apple path of using hardware that is 99% common commodity.

[dammy]

Let's stop bothering the X1000 people heat up this thread instead. No personal attacks. Make a case for or against your preferred platform.



I think BeOS had years to make an impact on PowerPC and got nowhere. It only picked up fans when it went x86. Amiga OS should do likewise.

Because most people (a majority) need an x86 system for work or study it's more convenient to use x86.

X86_64 or ARM would work.  AROS is already there and is in process of being ported to ARM.  Problem is with AROS, it's old school and unlikely to see any modern features in a reasonable time period, if ever.

Basically, we need a new OS for the future that takes the best of the spirit of the Amiga that won't be a major pain in the rear end to use or maintain.   That goes from tablet/smartphone to desktop/server with it doing a reasonable job.

[Karlos]

I think BeOS had years to make an impact on PowerPC and got nowhere. It only picked up fans when it went x86. Amiga OS should do likewise.

It has; it's called AROS.

[Cammy]

Since Aros is free and open source like Linux, it means we can make our own distributions of it specifically customised for certain applications or with its own unique look. At the moment, there's only Icaros, which is a pretty good all-in-one Aros setup packed with programs and games and emulators to use and it's so easy to install and use as an everyday OS, but still people seem to forget about it or not pay it much attention. Is it because of the name?

I wonder if we could make a new Aros distro called "Workbench 7" or "Batman OS" or something more attention grabbing, would more people download the live CD/DVD, reboot their PC and give it a go?

I sometimes think people just need to be reminded that Aros has come a long way and is at the stage where you can use it for nearly all your everyday needs. It has a fully CSS compatible web browser, plays just about any video file you can download (scaled to full screen too now), has MSN and IRC for chatting, a couple of really feature-packed Email clients, CD burning, graphics and music applications, file management, heaps of games and emulators...

And all of this is usable from the bootable CD/DVD! You just download the FREE ISO, burn it, reboot, and your PC is now running a modern AmigaOS written from scratch for x86 architecture. With a few clicks, you can begin installing it on a free partition and use it permanently. It will boot up faster than Windows, Linux or OSX.

How about installing it to a USB flash card? No problem! Then you can take your x86 Amiga OS setup with you anywhere you go. Plug it into the display laptops and netbooks at the shops, boot up into Aros, unplug and go to the next shop. Leave Amiga on everything.

[Boudicca]

x86.

Hmmmm Errm No........... I rest my case. QED. Move along, nothing to see here.!

[EDanaII]

I wonder if we could make a new Aros distro called "Workbench 7" or "Batman OS" or something more attention grabbing, would more people download the live CD/DVD, reboot their PC and give it a go?

I never really liked the name, AROS; always wished they would change it to something a little more interesting. In addition, I could really do without IcAROS, or iMica. These names are just unappealing. IcAROS reminds me too much of "Ich! AROS!" The Ares One, on the other hand, has a more appealing name.

Sorry, guys (AROS, IcAROS, iMica), not trying to lessen what you've done, because it is tremendous, but the names... Oi!

Ed.

[Lurch]

After watching what was happening with AROS for sometime now and after reading this thread I decided to give icaros ago, after working out what setting to choose to boot with to get the display to come up correctly I got to the desktop/workbench.

Everything looks good, I also liked the little red arrow in the corner, very nice touch. Downside is I could not get it to connect to the network none of the drivers on the live CD would work with my Broadcom chipset network card.

Gave up in the end so didn't even try to get sound working, will wait awhile longer I guess.

[ElPolloDiabl]

It has; it's called AROS.

I know, but the tail hasn't caught on yet.


As to name, go from spanish friend to french friend, how about Ami OS? Rex OS, Mans best friend.
Some more: OS Revolution. OS Mk2. Good O'S (name of a dog food). Thanks OS...

[KThunder]

If some company were to make an x86 amiga os separate from AROS they would have to put in at least a couple years of dedicated effort just to get where AROS is now. Not only would they be reinventing the wheel, they would also be alienating those of us who have followed AROS from the beginning (or close to it)
     They would be competing with a free product that is already quite stable and polished, which also has apps being developed for it. AROS has a maturity that has come from years of development and a very capable update framework that includes drivers, apps, and os functionality all organized through some very capable programmers.
     No matter what the tail has caught on to, AROS is here, it's getting better all the time, and it and its programmers deserve some serious respect.

[persia]

Well now that Amiga Inc is dead, you could give AROS a more Amiga name, maybe Amigo or AmigOS.  Or maybe (female) friend in Another language, Fili in Greek or Habib in Maltese.

Why not have a contest?  Name AROS!

[Manu]

@cammy

Good post I agree with what you say.

@thread
And about the name, well you can't please everybody, but "Ubuntu" "Kubuntu" that got to be the worst name you could put on an OS ever. :-)