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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #44 from previous page: November 21, 2003, 07:45:33 PM »
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Is the SharkPPC supposed to be working with a G-REX or a Prometheus or whatever else busboard?  I'm sorry if this question have been asked before.


I doubt it very much. Even if it technically worked, I'd be extremely surprised if they "allowed" it to work on anything but a mediator.
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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #45 on: November 21, 2003, 07:56:05 PM »
if 2000-3000 mediators only was sold then i find the DCE official numbers to have been totally biased!, 1000 cards was produced and compared to the mediator the grexx aint anything you want unless u really gotta have it (or have a ppc).

8-10000 is a number i am willing to speculate in, mediator is now 3 years old and i still see people buying it every month.

and i doubt elbox would have made all thr models they did if they only sold 300 units of every model...

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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #46 on: November 22, 2003, 04:33:17 AM »
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And judjeing from the looks of this picture the card is at last physically compatible to a PCI-Slot. The other PCI-MACs had the notch in the middle of their processorslot (I have one PM7600 right before me), this card as you can clearly see has the notch at exactly the same place as a PCI-card would.


I stand corrected.  That is definitely a PCI card and does bear an almost exact layout of the Elbox card.  Not that it is a bad thing, mind you.  The 7200 was a very odd machine and as I recall was made not to be upgradable, but was quickly replaced with the 7500.  (actually they were introduced about the same time) and the 7200 was alot cheaper, but non-upgradeable.

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You don`t belive Elbox will really design or even redesign a processorcard, do you ?.


Well, they are obviously capable of designing products.  It would be a far reach for me to claim that they "couldn't" design a processor card.  

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But it won`t come close to the power of even the discontiued AOne SE, especially since the + will never come `cos Sonnet doesn`t produce such a card.


I would presume that they have a deal to make the cards based on Sonnets design, but adding faster processors as needed.  But, that is speculation on my part.  But you definitely cannot say that the Shark+ is a Mac card, because it has too much extra stuff listed on it (and it also doesn't have a pic).  And you saying it will never come is speculation based on past occurances.  It may or may not... time will tell.

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I do not doubt that you could hack this card to work in an Mediator but I really doubt that Elbox will do it.
There is simply no point in doing it, it would cost less then an AOne: right, it would cost less then an AOne lite: maybe.


At least we agree on that last part.  It will be too costly for most people.  For one, I would have to buy a Mediator for my A3000 @ $289.00, then the Shark @$299.00 (est.), then because in all of their wisdom Elbox designed the A3000D version to require a tower (HINT:  IT IS NOT AN A3000D AT THIS POINT!) So that requires me to spend another $200.00 on a custom A3000 tower (which is HUGE and bulky and ugly as hell).... Well, already I'm at $788.00, and you know what?  At that point I'm buying an AmigaOne.  If all I had to purchase was the Mediator and the Shark and plug it into my A3000 to run OS4, I would jump on it right away.  But the above senario is basically building a new system with a 13 year old motherboard, power supply etc.  Not a wise investment, however fun it may be.
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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #47 on: November 22, 2003, 10:24:49 AM »
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If you call common sense anti-Amiga (@ ikir in particular)


?????????????????????' :-?

We are not speaking of common sense. I SAY: if Shark will be out, i'll buy one for my 1200. Where is the common sense? Mediator is a fantastic products, Elbox sell a hign number of them, probably the best seller amiga classic product with the Power Tower (EBox from elbox), so it is possible Elbox will try to finish them and sell them.
If Shark will be not officially supported i'll not buy one.

Probably, As by now there is many more mediator users that pegasos+amiga one togheter.
 

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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #48 on: November 22, 2003, 12:02:42 PM »
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f it would have been that easy do you think DCE would have simply replicated the P5 PPC-cards without enhanceing it even only in terms of clockspeed an RAM-interface ?


Why should they? I mean, what motivation did they have for investing more time in a product that was going to be replaced in the near future? Most of all, what kind of benefit was there to be expected?

Those cards where hillariously expensive already, no need to beef up the price by modifications.

About designing CPU cards, I actually know someone that did (no, not Escena; no I'm not going to tell), it's not like this is rocket science or black magic. The question is, does the gain you'll get justify the effort? Given the limitations of the current classic Amiga hardware, this seems to me like riding a dead horse. The only advantage I could see is compatibility with old software.
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Re: Official email info about sharkppc from elbox
« Reply #49 on: November 22, 2003, 03:07:45 PM »
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The Shark PPC WILL come out and WILL run Amiga OS 4. So there! The future looks bright for Amiga.

Er...right. You're our resident fortuneteller I gather? Please disclose if I'll win the lottery next week ;-).


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