Official email info about sharkppc from elbox

[Bennymee]

>about me, the only advantage to take a Shark, is >keeping your Amiga1200 and continuing using it for >Old chipset dpendent programs.
>You never will be able to use old progs with AOS4,

Why could it NOT be possible to switch of the SharkPPC and use your 030 / 040 / 060 accelerator again ?

[Jupp3]

I _think_ I read somewhere, that it might be possible to use SharkPPC on "bare mediator with necessary cards" (So A1200 wouldn't be necessary at all)

Of course, next question is, could it be used on other PCI buses, like just about any PC, Micronik Z2/Z3 bus cards (They have passive PCI connectors)

[Kronos]

@lempkee

The question never was wether the Amiga-side can see more than the 8mb,
but if the PCI side can directly access the Amiga-HW. The answer to that is
a clear no !

And again, what has the number of sold Pegs to do with it ? Remember
that Hyperion claimed that it was far to low to justify a port   ;-)

@Claucus
In a previous statement similar to this they claimed that the Shark would
be so similar to the A1, that it would run OS4 unmodified. One of the
few occassions where someone from Hyperion had to aggree with me  :-P

@Platon
Don't forget their own CGX-compatible RTG-SW, the excuse for not buying
a P96-licence, or their allmost ready  :lol: USB-stack.

One might even add their widely misleading benchmarks to the list
as their is no way to actually use those high transfer rates (only possible
with Shark), but only the rather down to earth rates that go through the Voodoo.

[Kronos]

Oh and I really doubt that Elbox is still selling a reasonable amount
of Mediators today, as most of those you want to keep their old systems
have allready bought one, or are just fed up with Elbox trying to force their
way without ever carring for anything else.

[lempkee]

karlos: hehehe yeah i know, but it aint the same thing...its a hack concept...long live ..

kronos:hyperion said that yes, but there is something which tells me that supporting the sharkppc with os4 wont go in a destructive way, and as far as elbox go ... it wouldnt need any modifications, anyway its vapor and it has been that since 2001 for me (i saw the card in 1999/2000 and held it in my hands...).


yeah there might not be a market anymore for building up their amigas but the weird part is that there is more people wanting to upgrade what they have to ppc and with the lack of ppc cards .heh.. (i know of people who paid over 450 Euro for a 060*603e card this year,used old stuff.)

anyway i will wait and see, as i am sure there is enough of things ready for me by the time the shark is out or in....

[Bennymee]

@Kronos
>And again, what has the number of sold Pegs to do with it ? Remember
that Hyperion claimed that it was far to low to justify a port


Mediator support can only grow, but the Pegasos not as production is stopped. (nobody has a license for a new productionrun)
And on the Pegasos you have MorphOS, so it'll be a much smaller then the 600 IMHO.

[BR]

eFlash4000, no documentation, no support.
I cant say Elbox has "stood up" with
this purchase.

[Kronos]

@Bennymee

Mediator should have reached it's peak (or will soon) as the the users
retiring their real Amigas (how I hate the term "classic"), or be
forced to do so by dying HW will soon outnumber those you invest in
a Mediator.

Pegasos1 production has stopped, but the Peg2 will come "real soon now"(tm)  ;-)

[Bennymee]

@lempkee

yeah there might not be a market anymore for building up their amigas but the weird part is that there is more people wanting to upgrade what they have to ppc and with the lack of ppc cards .heh.. (i know of people who paid over 450 Euro for a 060*603e card this year,used old stuff.)

I can only agree, I sold some BlizzardPPC and CyberStorm cards last month's. I can only say from experience that a lot of people like too buy this stuff.

[CU_AMiGA]

Oh, speaking of Blizzard PPC cards, does anyone have a 040/240mhz Blizz PPC card they want to sell to me?

[Mason]

Pegasos1 production has stopped, but the Peg2 will come "real soon now"(tm)

You mean "when it is done"(tm) ;-)

[Bennymee]

@Kronos

>Mediator should have reached it's peak (or will >soon) as the the users
>retiring their real Amigas (how I hate the >term "classic"), or be
>forced to do so by dying HW will soon outnumber >those you invest in
>a Mediator.

The Mediator is available for almost every model Amiga, I see a large potential market (> 100.000 machine's) and not everyone is going to retire their Amiga immediatly after the new generation is out.  I'll see another argument to buy an Mediator if the  SharkPPC it out.  

About dying hardware, after OS4 is consumer ready, our old hardware isn't immediatly falling apart...

>Pegasos1 production has stopped, but the Peg2 >will come "real soon now"(tm)  

We know Kronos, but we discuessed about OS4 for SharkPPC and Pegasos I.  

 

[Bennymee]

@Kronos

>....have allready bought one, or are just fed up with >Elbox trying to force their
>way without ever carring for anything else.

Elbox is controversial.  
But I owned an G-Rex and I can only say the support, professionilism of the company (for 2 years I intervieuwd them) is behind that of Elbox, they are much better.







 to go offtopic...

[bloodline]

our old hardware isn't immediatly falling apart...

My Amiga's are certainly on their last legs, I run them as little as possible (and use Emulation when needed)... I wan't to keep my machines alive (switching them on on special occations), rather an use them just for the sake of it...

[Kronos]

@Bennymee
>100000 machines ?? Sorry but ....
 :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

You would be hard presses to gather 10000 active Amigians, and only
a minority of those run beefed upt "classics". Just ask anybody who actually
sells Amiga-HW/SW, and when he managed to sell >1000 units for the last
time .....

And no, we haven't discussed OS4 for Shark or Peg1, but wether the Shark
is real or just vapor (until someone pulled it OT).

Oh and Amigas are falling apart everyday, they just don't care wether OS4
is ready or not. Just have a close look through forums like this, and you will
find lots of questions bout such systems behaving strangly.

[ikir]

Kronos always attack Elbox or things that he don't like...... don't care guys.

I'm going to order my A1 next week, and if Shark will be out, and OFFICIALLY supported i'll buy one for my 1200. Elbox hardware i had buy in the past is "state of the art", and them are the only reason why i can use my Amiga everyday, also for work.
Some my friends had chosed Shark instead of an A1 or both.
There is a Market, Mediator always sell very good, probably the best sell classic upgrade ever, and Shark have a good start point if it are good.

We'll se, but Kronos, you don't need to flame every Elbox post/news.