Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Amigakits a1200 recommendation  (Read 8988 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Cammy

Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2010, 06:55:04 PM »
Quote
However, your advice would be valid for an unaccelerated A600 as this is a 16-bit system.


This implies my advice about using a 8MB Trapdoor RAM expansion for WHDLoad games being sufficient is invalid. Your post was directed at me as if you were making a correction to what I had advised, which wasn't incorrect to begin with.

I never recommended SRAM as the sole RAM expansion for an A1200, only as an addition if a 4MB trapdoor expansion is used and is insufficient memory for a particular game, which in most cases is only needed for preloading multiple disk games that nearly all only require a 68000.
A1200 030@28Mhz/2MB+32MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB/4-Way Clockport Expander/IndivisionAGA/PCMCIA NIC
A1200 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/FPU/RTC/KS3.0/IDE-CF+2GB/S-Video
CD32 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB
A600 030@30Mhz/2MB+64MB/RTC/IDE-CF+4GB/Subway USB/S-Video/PCMCIA NIC/USB Numeric Keypad+Hub+Mouse+Control Pad
A500 000@7Mhz/512kB+512kB/ROM Switcher/KS3.1+1.3/S-Video

Get AmigaOS
 

Offline TheGoose

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Nov 2002
  • Posts: 1458
  • Country: us
  • Gender: Male
    • Show only replies by TheGoose
    • http://www.amiga.org/forums/blog.php?u=827
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2010, 07:23:33 PM »
All good, the recommendations.
I would add some s-video solution, so you could connect to a LCDTV / Monitor.

Might just hold on for the AGA MiniMig to come out - perfect!
G1200, A3000D, A1200 PPC AOS4.0C

I\'m on Google +
 

Offline FisketryneTopic starter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 24
    • Show only replies by Fisketryne
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2010, 09:08:50 PM »
Lots of useful comments and clarifications. Never had a retailer post advice to a customer enquiry before. Cool. And an almost as cool miniwar following, for some sunday night drama :)

Kind of want blizzardy thingy. Anyone got any idea of a good performance, price combo? And did I read somewhere that not all versions fit because of.. space issues and heat? Bet those last ones are overkill and not something for me anyhow.
 

Offline amiga1260

Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2010, 09:17:22 PM »
You could use all Blizzard cards like the Blizzard 1260, 1220/4, 1230 and even a 1240 desktop version from DCE. Other cards like Blizzard 1240T(ower) version and the Blizzard PPC cards don't fit in without heavy modification of your A1200 like putting in a tower.

If you could get a Blizzard 1240 desktop or 1260 version, then you need a beefier PSU like the lightweight A500 PSU version.

There is a memory expansion from Blizzard 1200/4. It looks the same as a 1220/4, but without a 020@28 Mhz processor on it.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2010, 09:19:32 PM by amiga1260 »
 

Offline Buzzfuzz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 377
    • Show only replies by Buzzfuzz
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #18 on: April 11, 2010, 09:36:36 PM »
Quote from: Fisketryne;553034
Kind of want blizzardy thingy. Anyone got any idea of a good performance, price combo? And did I read somewhere that not all versions fit because of.. space issues and heat? Bet those last ones are overkill and not something for me anyhow.

Get a 1230 IV Blizzard 030 @ 50 mhz and with 64 MB ram on it.
If you have an old pc lying somewhere with 64MB EDO ram you can take it out there and put it on the Blizzard, then you could buy one with less ram which may be a bit less expensive, but they sell at around 150 euros or 200 US dollars, 130 Uk pound, 220 AU Dollars.
 
I've got 2 of them, but the get quite hot so you will have to get some cooling in there, a 40mm by 40mm Scythe Mini Kaze LED will provide some cooling, you can screw this on the standing up holder within the trapdoor bay, wont be easy, but it will draw some air from the diskdrive side.
 
But better is to towerize it like Amiga1260 said, you could then slap a cooling block on it and a processor cooler.
Wishlist: A3500, A2500UX
 

Offline drewz21

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Feb 2006
  • Posts: 393
    • Show only replies by drewz21
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2010, 10:11:51 PM »
I just ordered a GVP-M Typhoon 68030-40Mhz with 16MB RAM for my A1200.  Can't wait for it to come in so I can start using WHDLOAD.  Hoping this will be a big upgrade over my stock A1200HD.
:-)
Amiga - The fun computer!

Amiga 500 - 3MB, A590, 250MB HD, SupraTurbo28.
Amiga 1200HD - 32MB, 4GB CF-Card, GVP 68030-40Mhz.
Amiga 600HD
 

Offline meega

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 952
    • Show only replies by meega
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2010, 10:19:10 PM »
Quote from: Buzzfuzz;553039
Get a 1230 IV Blizzard ...
 
I've got 2 of them, but the get quite hot so you will have to get some cooling in there, ...


Blizzard MkIV does not require any cooling.
:)
 

Offline FisketryneTopic starter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 24
    • Show only replies by Fisketryne
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2010, 11:40:08 PM »
Quote from: meega;553046
Blizzard MkIV does not require any cooling.


So who is correct? Cooling or not cooling? This is not cool :roflmao:

Would something like this need a tower or extra cooling? I really don“t want to towerize to preserve the classic amiga look.
 

Offline Cammy

Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #22 on: April 12, 2010, 12:00:27 AM »
No, that card doesn't require any cooling, it will fit inside the desktop case with no problems. It will also make your Amiga powerful enough to be used for online games like Dynamite, and make it perfect for multimedia presentation software and game creation software like Backbone.

An Amiga with a 68030 can do so much more than games, if you do get an accelerator you should look into all the creativity software available, and maybe try and bring it online for more fun.
A1200 030@28Mhz/2MB+32MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB/4-Way Clockport Expander/IndivisionAGA/PCMCIA NIC
A1200 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/FPU/RTC/KS3.0/IDE-CF+2GB/S-Video
CD32 020@14Mhz/2MB+8MB/RTC/KS3.1/IDE-CF+4GB
A600 030@30Mhz/2MB+64MB/RTC/IDE-CF+4GB/Subway USB/S-Video/PCMCIA NIC/USB Numeric Keypad+Hub+Mouse+Control Pad
A500 000@7Mhz/512kB+512kB/ROM Switcher/KS3.1+1.3/S-Video

Get AmigaOS
 

Offline meega

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 952
    • Show only replies by meega
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2010, 12:12:11 AM »
Quote from: Fisketryne;553050
So who is correct? Cooling or not cooling? This is not cool :roflmao:

I am, unless you live somewhere really really hot (50-60C air temperature?).



Yes, that is a 68882 in there too. The RAM is "only" 32MB, there are another 8 chips on the other side. The trapdoor clips home sweetly. Additional cooling is not required.
:)
 

Offline Amiga_Nut

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jan 2007
  • Posts: 926
    • Show only replies by Amiga_Nut
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2010, 01:25:10 AM »
LCD/Plasma TVs still have SCART or Component input right? So why are people talking about composite and s-video signals....just use the native 15.5khz RGB signal (in the EU SCART plugs straight in...in NTSC land you may need a connector to bridge from Component/SCART etc dunno). Leave RF/Composite/YC for the CRTs of this world :)
 

Offline meega

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 952
    • Show only replies by meega
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2010, 01:39:20 AM »
Quote from: Amiga_Nut;553070
just use the native 15.5khz RGB signal


15.6KHz PAL, 15.72KHz NTSC.

My CRT TV has SCART and "S-Video" (aka Y/C or L/C) as well as composite and UHF. Most of the S-Video fans are in the US, where they don't have SCART.
:)
 

Offline TjLaZer

Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2010, 01:41:33 AM »
A semi cheap A1200 040/060 card can be bought for ~$100 to $200 on eBay.  Works great with WHDLoad, I should know I have one with 64MB. (Which is overkill)
« Last Edit: April 12, 2010, 01:51:45 AM by TjLaZer »
Going Bananas over AMIGAs since 1987...

Looking for Fusion Fourty PNG ROMs V3.4?

:flame: :banana: :banana: :banana:
 

Offline FisketryneTopic starter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 24
    • Show only replies by Fisketryne
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2010, 08:11:12 AM »
Quote from: Cammy;553055
No, that card doesn't require any cooling, it will fit inside the desktop case with no problems. It will also make your Amiga powerful enough to be used for online games like Dynamite, and make it perfect for multimedia presentation software and game creation software like Backbone.
 
An Amiga with a 68030 can do so much more than games, if you do get an accelerator you should look into all the creativity software available, and maybe try and bring it online for more fun.

Sounds fantastic really. Gonna see if I can get it, even though it seemed kinda expensive. But getting the Amiga online with workbench 3.1 seems troublesome (though awesome) from searching the forum. A reason for getting get 3.9?
 

Offline FisketryneTopic starter

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Join Date: Apr 2010
  • Posts: 24
    • Show only replies by Fisketryne
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2010, 08:21:15 AM »
Quote from: meega;553061
I am, unless you live somewhere really really hot (50-60C air temperature?).
 

 
Yes, that is a 68882 in there too. The RAM is "only" 32MB, there are another 8 chips on the other side. The trapdoor clips home sweetly. Additional cooling is not required.

Northern part of Norway is not famous for it's hot weather. This weekend I went cross country skiing. Ah :) Should be perfect accellerator weather right now.
 

Offline ElPolloDiabl

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2009
  • Posts: 1702
    • Show only replies by ElPolloDiabl
Re: Amigakits a1200 recommendation
« Reply #29 from previous page: April 12, 2010, 09:26:04 AM »
Has anyone put together an all in one Amiga internet package? If they haven't someone should post one to Aminet.
I started with all in one package thankfully given to me free by the Amiga store guy. Otherwise I would have had to pour over tutorials and hunt down obscure software.
Go Go Gadget Signature!