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Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« on: November 20, 2003, 05:03:57 PM »
Hi to all Amigos!

I have a VCR with two scarts (one input and one output), and a TV tuner for VGA monitor with S-Video (or "Super VHS") input.  I connected my Amiga to the input scart with the good ol' Amiga->Scart cable, and the VCR to the S-Video of the tuner with a relevant cable.  As much as I tried modifying  the settings of the tuner and the VCR, I couldn't get any picture from the Amiga.

I know that I can use the VGA monitor directly and I have the Amiga->VGA adaptor, but if I use an VGA screenmode my modem becomes slow!! 0_0  (I have a 040/25 + PPC/160 and no gfx card).  I have been been using ye olde 1084 monitor so far which I want to get rid of, and that's also why I got the tuner (plus I can use the VGA monitor as a TV, now I have my VCR connected to the 1084).

I can not find an Amiga->S-Video cable, as Amiga dealers have disappeared here (Greece) anyway. :O(  Unless there is an adaptor for the scart of the Amiga->Scart cable to S-Video...

Any suggestions?

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2003, 05:05:53 PM »
On an old Video Machine that I had with a SCART in and out, the In was just a pass through.

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2003, 05:17:43 PM »
"Pass through"?  Which means...?

What's weird is that I also have a composite->scart cable and there's no problem!!  (by the way, I'm using an A1200)  But the picture is blurred and I use my Amiga for useful things rather than games (e.g. Internet)... :O(
 

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2003, 05:23:36 PM »
Pass Through means  that the signal going into the "In" goes to the "Out" without being used by the device itself.

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2003, 05:33:44 PM »
Geia sou Ellada!

Loipon, to AmigaRGB -> Scart den 8a doulepsei pote.

Prepei na vgaleis e3odo apo to composite (RCA) out
tis Amiga. O logos einai aplos: To RGB - > Scart
den metatrepei to sima, apla metaferei to RGB sima se allo visma. Ta video den to ypostirizoun ayto, mono merikes TV.

An exeis ki alles apories mail me h kane post ok?
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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2003, 05:36:07 PM »
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Animagic wrote:
Geia sou Ellada!

Loipon, to AmigaRGB -> Scart den 8a doulepsei pote.

Prepei na vgaleis e3odo apo to composite (RCA) out
tis Amiga. O logos einai aplos: To RGB - > Scart
den metatrepei to sima, apla metaferei to RGB sima se allo visma. Ta video den to ypostirizoun ayto, mono merikes TV.

An exeis ki alles apories mail me h kane post ok?
 :-)


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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2003, 05:47:01 PM »
HEHEHE!!!

Ok, for bloodline only:
Translation from Greek:

Hello Greece!

So, AmigaRGB -> Scart cable will never work.

You must use Amiga's composite (RCA) output.
The reason is simple: RGB - > Scart cable does not change the video signal, only transferes the RGB signal to Scart plug. VTRs do not support this, only some TV sets do.

If you have any other questions mail me or post here ok?   :-)

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2003, 05:52:14 PM »
I have had no problems hooking up my a500, a600 to my vcr using composite/scart. Make sure that you do not connect it to the rgb/aerial output, cause that wont work
 

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2003, 06:07:38 PM »
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You must use Amiga's composite (RCA) output.
The reason is simple: RGB - > Scart cable does not change the video signal, only transferes the RGB signal to Scart plug. VTRs do not support this, only some TV sets do.

Yes, indeed, few VCRs support this. My VCR just gives out a black screen. However I've found out that many modern TV sets with scart-in supports it. How is this scart RGB signal different from the normal scart signal and why doesn't VCRs support it?

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2003, 06:13:57 PM »
RGB signal is 3 different signals in one connection:
Red Green and Blues signals are transfered directly to your tv set. So, your TV set MUST be able to accept Red Green abd Blue individual signals.

Composite is a "multiplexed version" of these signals, so it is 100% because ALL tv sets can "demultiplex" this signal.
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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2003, 06:19:06 PM »
So scart signals from scart units can be composite/rgb?
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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2003, 06:24:17 PM »
Yes, scart signals can be RGB/composite
Usually, most of the scart pins are used for the sound connection, so I don't think that there is room for another format like YUV on it.
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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2003, 07:05:09 PM »
Thanks all for the info! ^_^  So, it seems that I can't do what I had in my mind originally.  In this case, would anyone know where I can get an Amiga->S-Video cable?  (within Europe)

Animagic, since you live in Greece too, I wouldn't mind getting a mail from you.

Also, if any "furries" (they know who they are!) are reading this, I'd like mails from them too.

Thanks again. ^_^
 

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2003, 07:11:46 PM »
where I can get an Amiga->S-Video cable

I'm afraid you will have to solder this yourself.
I haven't seen any ami -> s-video cables :(

search the aminet for info.

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Re: Outputting Amiga video through VCR
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2003, 07:41:07 PM »
@Animagic

All Amigas, doesn't supply Y-C sepatared S-Video.

You must use a converter from RGB+Sync>S-Video(Y-C).

Quite all genlocks has YC out also.

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