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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2010, 12:11:50 AM »
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #60 on: April 11, 2010, 01:04:56 AM »


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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #61 on: April 11, 2010, 01:07:51 AM »
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Amstrad sold typewriters with monitors attached, and a few 8-Bits, pretty much UK exclusive as far as I know. How is this relevent to apple?

Ahh Amstrad had a habit of building all-in-one 8 and 16bit machines...when the tape deck/diskdrive broke the computer was useless...and on their CPC 8bit machines if the monitor died...so did your computer's PSU. All in one is a bad design in my opinion, you need to account for twice the potential replacement units if only half the unit fails (say the backlight on the LCD)


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Luckily they don't go "kaput" very often. Mine still hasn't, and it's 11 Years old. I've tried. It's fell off desks and everything.

If you run a business then bllind faith is not enough...you need contingency...which was my point.


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It's funny you mention Toshiba, i've got a 310cds laptop here, and you could probably beat someone to death with it, lcd first, and it'd be unharmed. It weighs about half a stone even with the battery removed though.

The 310CDS is comparable with those rubbish black plastic era Macintosh notebooks from the mid-late 90s with the trackball in the middle of the palm rest. Funny thing is in 1996/98 Toshiba was making full featured Pentium and Pentium MMX tiny ultra portable laptops with SVGA 6.1" TFT screens the size of two DVD cases stacked ontop of each other, and performance wise (including battery performance!) they were identical to a full sized laptop. So yes Toshiba does know more about laptops than any other company all thing considered, and their Portege is superior to the Air from a hardware point of view (OS is not my problem....Toshiba don't write bloatware7).

Here is a Toshiba Libretto 233MMX Laptop



Hardly bigger than todays USB 3.5" 1/3 height floppy drives.

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Once you get used to them they are unquestionably superior. Easier to type on, almost silent, and... Pop a few keys off your keyboard with a pen or something. You won't break it, unless it's a laptop. They'll go back on fine. See all the bits of crisps, dust, fluff, a few pubes? That stuff can't end up in the current mac keyboard.

It's yet another case of style over function I feel, I have nothing against laptop keyboards, use them 24/7 myself...but on a desktop.....come on. Anyway the Dell Inspiron 9400/XPS 1720 laptops have superior keyboards to everyone...and also these Apple 'desktop' keyboards.


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They feel really weird before you get used to them though, and I've not got one because I refue to pay thirty odd quid for a keyboard. £7 Argos jobby for me thanks.

I'm fussy about my keyboards, it's worth spending a little extra when you use them all day as I have to for my business.


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That's kind of daft. The price of a BMW/Apple is reflected in the build quality very clearly. The main difference though is that a new BMW is hideous. It's like they style all the cars by getting a 90's one, and covering it in dents.

Bit of an in-joke from the UK TV show Top Gear....when Richard Hammond proclaims to have the fastest electric convertible roof (because BMW told him it was...in techno-bullshit Z4's manual) but Clarkson proceeded to show him his review car (cheaper Honda S2000) was quicker...and the tag line is "don't believe what you read in your glossy manuals son"


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At any rate, I've never actually bought an iMac brand new, and have only ever had this one, single apple product. The current iMac is great, and the form factor is exactly what I want. But I cant afford it, so I settle for a a Hackintosh taking up legroom under my desk.

The only machine I use OS X on is a Dell Latitude D810...it is an awesome PC laptop...despite being half a decade old it still runs games that 'new' laptop technology shafted by integrated graphics do not.


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Which one? My sister had one (cant remember the model) that looked okay. Comedy PB moments were: She couldn't figure out how to play a dvd, refused to beleve the CD burner could also read CDs (whaaa?) and got angry if you proved her wrong, she installed a sound card without looking at the instructions or installing drivers ("what would I want to drive my computer for? it's not a car") then was surprised when it didn't work, destroying her CRT by spraying the insides with furnature polish (WHHHY), and blowing up the PSU doing the same.
But I digress.



That one....only the machine though....monitor is usual pap, and keyboard about 5 quid quality.


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Which is one hell of a difference. Every desktop enviroment, toolkit and even the X Window system itself is universally shite.



Ugh. I think the only system to do it worse was windows 3.x.


GUI is just graphics though, whilst XP may look like a Fischer Price 'My first GUI' with orange and blue it is the best OS Microshits have ever made...hell you can even manage DVD playback in 266mhz same as the previous 2 versions of Windows back....unlike today where the bloat continues unabated AND...Windows 7 looks the most pathetic of all GUIs since Windows Millenium IMO.

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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #62 on: April 11, 2010, 01:30:36 AM »
The X11 windowing system is definitely a Marmite effect, I personally find it MUCH BETTER than any windows GUI. And BTW, use fluxbox and the latest GNOME and not some outdated version of it. At least Linux offers different enviroment options, back in '96 me and my uncle tried to install PB Explorer, he had to literally rewrite the installer to avoid calling a Win 3.1 library version which is what MS used in '95 to encourage MS BOB (Bloated, Outdated and Balless). On the contrary, in Ubuntu all I have to do is

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Then logout and change the enviroment
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2010, 02:20:25 AM »
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #64 on: April 11, 2010, 02:39:37 AM »
Personally I don't need a desktop, I have a suitably beefy laptop for most games I bother to play on PC....and a PS3 and 360 for the rest....so I have reclaimed my desk space (and lost the living room to gaming/home cinema tech! lol)

Then again, I can't stand huge hulking great boxes making a racket and taking up miles of space....but neither does the styling of the iMac do anything for me too.
 

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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #65 on: April 11, 2010, 04:11:19 AM »
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Personally I don't need a desktop, I have a suitably beefy laptop for most games I bother to play on PC....and a PS3 and 360 for the rest....so I have reclaimed my desk space (and lost the living room to gaming/home cinema tech! lol)

Then again, I can't stand huge hulking great boxes making a racket and taking up miles of space....but neither does the styling of the iMac do anything for me too.


yeah, I'd love a commodore style "laptop without monitor" PC rather than these big boxes
 

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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #66 on: April 11, 2010, 04:36:56 AM »
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The X11 windowing system is definitely a Marmite effect, I personally find it MUCH BETTER than any windows GUI. And BTW, use fluxbox and the latest GNOME and not some outdated version of it. At least Linux offers different enviroment options, back in '96 me and my uncle tried to install PB Explorer, he had to literally rewrite the installer to avoid calling a Win 3.1 library version which is what MS used in '95 to encourage MS BOB (Bloated, Outdated and Balless). On the contrary, in Ubuntu all I have to do is

"# apt-get install (enviroment package here)"
Then logout and change the enviroment
"# apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop"


And I find it retarded that everything has to be compared against microsoft windows, as if windows is a neutral measure for everything that is good or bad - I dont give a rats ass if something is "way better than windows" if it still sucks donkeyballs.

And for the record, I'm no huge fan of Ubuntu either, and btw - you're not supposed to use atp-get :laughing:
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #67 on: April 11, 2010, 06:02:01 AM »
I would just say the "gay test" and gay slurs here need to end.. It's disrespectful and wrong and the type of sentiment needs to end.. What you think by what system a gay person might choose here is completely stereotyping people including gay people..

This is highly OFFENSIVE.. I hope someone removes it..
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #68 on: April 11, 2010, 08:53:31 AM »
@ Amiga_Nut: "...hulking great boxes making a racket and taking up miles of space..." - I agree that desktops certainly take up more space than laptops, but the noise issue is exactly opposite IMO - I haven't encountered a laptop yet that would be as quiet as I want it to be. OTOH building a near silent desktop is very easy if you know how to do it. Plus - having the machine under your desk instead of on top of it helps a lot in this regard.
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #69 on: April 11, 2010, 09:16:03 AM »
That's true: I have a low spec graphics card with no fan. 120mm PSU fan. CPU fan 80mm. New 500GB is completely silent. Only thing that makes noise is the optical drive. The front USB ports are handy too.
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #70 on: April 11, 2010, 09:55:07 AM »
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I would just say the "gay test" and gay slurs here need to end.. It's disrespectful and wrong and the type of sentiment needs to end.. What you think by what system a gay person might choose here is completely stereotyping people including gay people..

This is highly OFFENSIVE.. I hope someone removes it..
Actually, given the fact that it suggests the gay person would choose the Mac over the cheap hulking mess of a Dell, to me would be a compliment to the gay person...

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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #71 on: April 11, 2010, 11:43:41 AM »
I would be more offended by people who obviously think gays are too fragile to take a harmless joke. Talking about stereotypes...
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #72 on: April 11, 2010, 12:07:08 PM »
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I would just say the "gay test" and gay slurs here need to end.. It's disrespectful and wrong and the type of sentiment needs to end.. What you think by what system a gay person might choose here is completely stereotyping people including gay people..

This is highly OFFENSIVE.. I hope someone removes it..


Gays automatically have good aesthetic tastes? Damn I wish someone had told me!

See, this is what you get for never reading the newsletters :p

@bloodline lol

Seriously though, if someone who is gay finds it offensive, then let them complain, doing so on another groups behalf is why this country is in such a mess. We'll speak for ourselves, kthxbai.
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #73 on: April 11, 2010, 12:32:10 PM »
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Re: mac and pc sucks!!!!
« Reply #74 from previous page: April 11, 2010, 12:41:22 PM »
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Would this be a bad time to pearoast the butthurt form?


I'm good ta. But have at it if you want :lol:

On a serious note, it's not slurs or even stereotypes that bug me (hell the now deleted thread should have stood as testament to that), it's folk getting offended on other groups behalf.

Hmm, well at least I've found material for my next blog post. :D
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