The natami looks very close to completion.

[gertsy]

I wonder how much it will cost?

No more than a Sherlock Holmes remake with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, and just as likely.

Gertsy

[the_leander]

No more than a Sherlock Holmes remake with Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, and just as likely.

Gertsy

I preferred Jeremy Brett's take on Holmes. Still just as likely though.

[TheBilgeRat]

No hope that they are on the level?

[NovaCoder]

They obviously have some very talented people on the team but unfortunatley it takes more than talent to bring such an ambitious project to market.  

I feel they would have been better off aiming a little lower.....

[Gulliver]

They obviously have some very talented people on the team but unfortunatley it takes more than talent to bring such an ambitious project to market.  

I feel they would have been better off aiming a little lower.....

Amen

[Duce]

I'm looking very forward to this Natami piece of kit coming to market, but it's slow moving it seems.  I was horribly disappointed with the SAM in the compatibility department in regards to the older 3.x Amiga software and ended up just using my SAM with UAE :/

[TheBilgeRat]

It doesn't seem as if they are aiming that high- that is if I were some knowledgeable fellow on how to do such things I would think I'd skip the 68060 altogether and do ppc or just maybe the classic on a card and then some twelve core latest chip monster with dual pcie video heads and a metric ton of ram and price it at dell's insipid line (250US approx). =)

[KThunder]

Close to completion, close to booting, we have an odd view of things in the amiga community. Some of us are pretty jaded by vapor in the past. The one I wanted most was Mick Tinker's boXer thingie, that looked really cool.

Minimig and other projects like Aros and UAE have changed my mind somewhat on what we in the community can do. we have some pretty talanted and capable people still. I'm still not convinced Natami isn't too ambitious, but hey I've been wrong before. I would be glad to be wrong if I can plunk down some cash monies on a Natami soon.

[ElPolloDiabl]

It doesn't seem as if they are aiming that high- that is if I were some knowledgeable fellow on how to do such things I would think I'd skip the 68060 altogether and do ppc or just maybe the classic on a card and then some twelve core latest chip monster with dual pcie video heads and a metric ton of ram and price it at dell's insipid line (250US approx). =)

Only problem is no one is making PowerPC chips. I think you mean go ARM.

[takemehomegrandma]

http://www.natami.net/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=11215&x=16

Or at least, booting. I'm surprised, after months and years of hearing only small things, they've started posting a checklist which is getting done really fast. I have to wonder, will they have a working product for us to buy before or after the x1000? What do you think?

Many people have (justified) doubts about the NatAmi, and so do I, but personally I think that the NatAmi has better odds of actually being released at all than the "X1000", and it will definitely be a more interesting and creative little "geek gadget" compared to the "X1000". It will probably be something people can afford as well. I can easily see myself getting a NatAmi, but there is no way in this world I'll spend 1,500 EUR on an "X1000", no matter which of the two gets released first...

[dammy]

Many people have (justified) doubts about the NatAmi, and so do I, but personally I think that the NatAmi has better odds of actually being released at all than the "X1000", and it will definitely be a more interesting and creative little "geek gadget" compared to the "X1000". It will probably be something people can afford as well. I can easily see myself getting a NatAmi, but there is no way in this world I'll spend 1,500 EUR on an "X1000", no matter which of the two gets released first...

I really don't see myself buying either.  The only thing that could make me interested is when AROS gets ported to EFIKA-MX smartbook (or x86 netbook).  With dual booting with Linux, might make it worth it to me to buy.  At the very worst, I'll just go buy a couple of the Amiga  games that I like that have been ported to Windows and install it on my laptop.  At this point in time, if it's not technologically interesting to me, why would I buy it?  There are no Amiga apps or games that I can not find a superior version of or run in emulation that would make a dedicated Amiga box worth while buying, regardless of the asking price.  

Sad but true and I highly doubt I'm alone either.

[KThunder]

Yeah these hardware projects are nice, but so is sitting down to a multi-core multi-ghz system with several gigs of ram, a brand new pci-e video card all running Aros.

Let the professionals with hundreds of millions of dollars and thousands of employees design and manufacture the hardware.

Of course I have a 68000 project I'm working on. Very unambitious just cpu, ram, eeprom and a ks0108 lcd controller, and maybe an audio dac.

[mongo]

Only problem is no one is making PowerPC chips. I think you mean go ARM.

Ever heard of Freescale? AMCC? IBM?

ARM is great if you're looking to make a cell phone or other mobile device, but not so great if you're looking to make a desktop.

[takemehomegrandma]

@ dammy & KThunder

Well, I guess you should look at NatAmi for what it is - a geek toy for Amiga nerds, an enthusiast product, an *Amiga* that matches and goes far beyond the A1200/A4000. It's *not* something aiming to replace anyones PC setup, something aiming to "rule the world" or whatever. It's a fun and cool hobby machine. I can easily see myself buying it for those merits. If you aren't appealed to this, then you aren't! As simple as that!

The X1000 however, is little more than a standard PC, but with the burden of not being standard (hence it has an obscure CPU and costs a magnitude more). Not very exciting IMHO.

[KThunder]

That is how I see Natami, I'm not pinning my hopes on it or anything. They are presenting it pretty agressively though. I tend to look at most things as vapor until proven otherwise. I know that may upset some people but I have worked on several projects over the years that were just geek hobbies. Fun to goof around with etc. When you set up a whole webpage and forum system and start setting up news etc. it goes beyond just a simple geek project.

[AJCopland]

That is how I see Natami, I'm not pinning my hopes on it or anything. They are presenting it pretty agressively though. I tend to look at most things as vapor until proven otherwise. I know that may upset some people but I have worked on several projects over the years that were just geek hobbies. Fun to goof around with etc. When you set up a whole webpage and forum system and start setting up news etc. it goes beyond just a simple geek project.

We are? There's a constantly running thread on the dev' side about keeping it quiet so as not to whip people into a frothing rage when it doesn't meet their expectations. Then there's a lot of followers who just seem to think it'll be the second coming of Christ!!! :/ We're trying not to get peoples hopes too high, we just started off doing a _terrible_ job of it.

It's more than just a geek project; we want to release it with basic features that beat a base A4000/A1200 setup. That's it. Everything else, no matter how many times we say it, is for AFTER that. The 3D Core, improved sound etc etc etc almost all of it is for after, the base platform just has to be capable of supporting that future work AND be as compatible as possible with old software.

We'll get there I think, Thomas has done some amazing work, but he is the originator of the project and the only one doing the hardware much like MikeJ with the fpgaarcade board so it takes time.

Back on topic: Close is a relative term, I think MikeJ is much much closer than we are and I'd love to buy one of his boards myself when they're available. Not necessarily for NatAmi but just for what it is in and of itself.

Andy