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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #89 from previous page: April 07, 2010, 06:29:04 AM »
All the mac hate is pretty hilarious on an amiga forum.
 

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #90 on: April 07, 2010, 06:53:08 AM »
Not hating mac, its hating a device that costs more than most laptops and lack tons more than one.  It's Apple doing the same thing over and over again and Macheads oohing and aweing over it.  Think about it what have people complained about on the Iphone the last 2 yrs???  And now the Ipad in its pretty case with no USB, no cd/DVD/blue ray drive (what if the OS goes crap how do you re-install the OS?? send it to Apple so they can charge you?  Where's the Camera for video conferencing?  Where's the multi-tasking.  Great for watching movies??? not if u own them on DVD lol.  No flash?  Having to always buy Apps from Apple or music from them.  How do u rip ur favorite CD collection?  Oh yeah u either use a computer transfer it wirelessly or pay for the same music again from Apple.  No removable battery? unexcusable.  Apple makes these devices so you have to keep paying them ($99 to change battery, download apps and music from them.  Prob pay them to reload the OS once someone with a lot of time on thier hands decides to write a destructive virus).  Want one hmmmn no thank you my Laptop hands down destroys it.
 

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #91 on: April 07, 2010, 06:58:34 AM »
I neither "love" nor "hate" inanimate electronic devices.  There are varying things I can get out of them versus what I have to put in to them to get it out.  I could probably do about 90 to 95 percent of what I do on my PC with...say, oh, an Amiga.  The massive amount of effort required (money + time) however means I really won't bother.

Likewise, consolidating things I'm already familiar and with into a new device, and then asking me to move out of my comfort zone to learn an entirely new UI simply doesn't interest me.

What I do hate is the WOO WOO HYPE TRAIN that comes storming out of the roundhouse every fucking time Steve Jobs takes a crap, and the idiocy that accompanies such blind fanboyism.  I've got a four year old Gateway I got for the price of repairing the flip/pentouch screen on it that I could probably install OSX on if the mood took me that would eat the iEtch-a-Sketch for lunch.  Apple neither invented nor perfected the PDA, MP3 player, cell phone, palmtop or netbook, but to hear the shrill Apple Defense Corps, carrying their Jobsian Reality Distortion Field generators into battle, you'd think that Apple had.

That is what I hate.
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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #92 on: April 07, 2010, 08:12:29 AM »
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All the mac hate is pretty hilarious on an amiga forum.


What I find really funny is how much some of the comments remind me of sitting in a pub when I was 9 years old with my Grandmother, and while I was drinking my coke and eating my cheese and onion crisps... I could hear three old guys on the table next to us complaining about "how terrible music was now". The funny thing is that you don't have to like the iPad, you have had your computing life... Now technology moves on, an the next generation will adopt the new paradigms, mobile, easy to use, energy efficient, ultra secure always on, persistently connected, touch screen devices will replace most of what we call "computers"...

The desktop metaphor is 30 years old, and been mainstream for at least 25 years... The keyboard must well over 100 years old... These old work flow models will be replaced just as the GUI replaced command line interfaces... Of course there will still be a place for these older concepts, but the mainstream will move on to the new "MultiTouch" display.

You either sit there and bitch about it, or get on with it and work it to suit your own needs... But never for get that you are now one of the old blokes sitting in the corner complaining how music isn't as good as it used to be.


For the record (pun intended), I AM now the old bloke in the corner insisting that music isn't as good as in my day... I don't get modern music, but I don't have to, I have my vast music collection and I just ignore 90% of the drivel that the record companies churn out. ;)

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #93 on: April 07, 2010, 08:29:58 AM »
People always bring up this stuff. "My laptop is way more powerful than an Ipad", "my 360 is way more powerful than the wii" blah blah blah

And in the end, nobody cares. Console games outsell PC games, The wii outsells the 360, the ipad will sell tons of devices, PC's beat the amiga back in the day and the most sold console is a handheld nintendo.

The average user does not give a crap if he has the most powerful machine, as long as its easy to use and does things he wants to do.
 

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #94 on: April 07, 2010, 09:01:05 AM »
Should you buy an iPad buyers guide.

http://www.esarcasm.com/wp-content/ipad-chart.jpg


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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2010, 09:18:43 AM »
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its hating a device that costs more than most laptops and lack tons more than one.

It's not a laptop, mate.

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what if the OS goes crap how do you re-install the OS??

Do you know anything about modern technology at all?

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Where's the multi-tasking.

Ok, I'll give you that one, but I assume this will change with future updates.  Right now, only Apple's applications can multitask.  3rd party apps can not run in the background.

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Great for watching movies??? not if u own them on DVD lol.

Oh, gee, I bet they didn't think about that one.  Take that, Apple!

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No flash?

Good riddance!

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Having to always buy Apps from Apple or music from them. How do u rip ur favorite CD collection?  Oh yeah u either use a computer transfer it wirelessly or pay for the same music again from Apple.

Sigh...  Import CD/MP3 in iTunes, sync via wlan.  Come on, man, at least pretend you know something about the product before you start whining in public.

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Want one hmmmn no thank you my Laptop hands down destroys it.

...you know, just saying "I'm obviously not the target group for this product" quietly to yourself is perfectly fine.

What a sad thread this is.
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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2010, 12:56:35 PM »
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Good non tech review
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/04/06/normal_human_being_uses_the_ipad/


"Obviously not the target audience" or,
"Doesn't get Apple" or,
"Obviously an Apple-hater".

That's pretty much the summary for anyone who doesn't buy into the Apple delusion, innit?
 

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #99 on: April 07, 2010, 01:22:57 PM »
Bah! This is the only useful thing you can do with the iPrat...

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b07_1270575942

Enjoy your shake... :-)

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #100 on: April 07, 2010, 03:24:00 PM »
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The desktop metaphor is 30 years old, and been mainstream for at least 25 years... The keyboard must well over 100 years old... These old work flow models will be replaced just as the GUI replaced command line interfaces... Of course there will still be a place for these older concepts, but the mainstream will move on to the new "MultiTouch" display.


There you are wrong, touch screen can never replace gaming with a keyboard/joystick. The feeling using it can't be the same as real buttons. however you do it's still a display, no depth also it's easy to slip onto another "button" on the touchscreen since there is nothing that stops your finger from moving. we all know when playing a fast game after hours in row and you are "in the game" you would slip quite easy on a screen, and that would make anyone angry!
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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #101 on: April 07, 2010, 03:42:34 PM »
Retro gaming, most people aren't retro.  You don't get this.  The device isn't for the Amiga user pining away in the fjords of Norway.  There will always be a niche for the retro fans.  The X1000 and the SAMs are proof of that, boat anchors to 99.99999% of the world, they will always sell to the true believer.  iPad is about the rest of the world, who couldn't give a s**t about operating systems and just want to do things.  There is talk of virtual reality games when the next version with a camera comes out.  Games will change to fit this device, not the other way around.  Understand that we live in 2010, a lot of young people don't even know what a joystick is.

You either embrace the future or confine yourself to a backwater.  You are free to choose, but don't complain when others don't choose to follow you into the backwater....

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There you are wrong, touch screen can never replace gaming with a keyboard/joystick. The feeling using it can't be the same as real buttons. however you do it's still a display, no depth also it's easy to slip onto another "button" on the touchscreen since there is nothing that stops your finger from moving. we all know when playing a fast game after hours in row and you are "in the game" you would slip quite easy on a screen, and that would make anyone angry!
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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #102 on: April 07, 2010, 03:50:35 PM »
So you are saying that if you don't embrace the Apple Maxi-pad that you will be left behind ?  That's  a very short-sighted view
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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #103 on: April 07, 2010, 05:47:56 PM »
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So you are saying that if you don't embrace the Apple Maxi-pad that you will be left behind ?  That's  a very short-sighted view
I specifically avoided mentioning the iPad, but yes, I believe that it is the first of a new class of computing. A class that might not feel natural to us, just as people resisted GUIs in the mid 80s, but is now here to stay. Ok Apple's mk1 iPad might not appeal to you and I... Maybe their mk2 or some other manufacture's device will, but it doesn't matter, as we are now the old blokes in the pub moaning about the new fangled music that's basically just noise :)

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Re: Anyone going to stand in line for this thing? Just wondering
« Reply #104 on: April 07, 2010, 07:15:29 PM »
Exactly, the desktop box era is fading, we are at yet another fork in the road.  

This may be the future too:

http://gizmodo.com/5280273/hybrid-androidxp-tabletlaptop-looks-nice-has-me-confused

It's not so much the iPad itself but the idea that the iPad represents.  The Amiga crowd is sounding more and more like Old Farts(tm), opposing every new idea because it doesn't have a boing ball on it...
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