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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #44 from previous page: March 31, 2010, 01:47:48 PM »
They don't have a case, if they want to stop piracy, keep on selling it. Who stopped me from selling a machine on ebay with Amithlon/ win 2k without cds or licenses for either? Nobody! because they wouldn't have a case because they don't offer them anymore. When a company ceases sale of a product, consider it fair game!
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #45 on: April 01, 2011, 01:16:32 AM »
Quote from: Cosmos;550032
A new HowTo for installing a socket 42 for the future physical Kickstart 3.9.1

I'll take mine with the sticker please, seriously Cosmos, the future it is right NOW!  ;)


EDIT, sorry for posting on such an old thread, never seen this before, got a little too excited.
« Last Edit: April 01, 2011, 01:34:29 AM by TheGoose »
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #46 on: April 01, 2011, 02:20:33 AM »
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Well, there are two positions I have observed here at the great A.org and they are 1) ideas are scrutinized on merit of technical soundness and cost worthiness, and 2) if an idea has something to do with copyrighted infringement it is going to meet swift opposition from the "Pirate Police".

Anyone releasing modified kickstart roms has to be aware of the risks. While Amiga might not have the money for lawyers anymore, there are other interested parties that do.
 
Selling increases the risk & your margins would be squeezed as anyone else can do the same thing.
 
If you release modifications anonymously then it's unlikely they'll track you down.
 

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #47 on: April 01, 2011, 05:25:56 AM »
Over the last years, I have sent many emails & letters about a new great physical Kickstart to :

McEwen, Hermans, Frieden, Dickinson, Pleasance, Haynie, Haag & Partner, Sassenrath, Tyschtschenko and many others...

I'm always waiting for an answer... They think only with their wallet : no lot of money to earn now with Amiga Classic... Sad but true...


I got only one reply from RJ Mical who wish me good luck...

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #48 on: April 01, 2011, 06:17:30 AM »
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Anyone releasing modified kickstart roms has to be aware of the risks. While Amiga might not have the money for lawyers anymore, there are other interested parties that do.
 
Since I'm making lotsa custom kickstarts for my own fun (owning the rights to many original 3.1 chips as long as original 3.9 CD) and not selling for profit... I don't care at all.
After all many of us can do our own mods on our Amigas and burn our own kickstarts for the fun of it.
ACATune's MapROM feature is really awesome since you don't have to burn tested ROMS everytime you wanna update or change a module.

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #49 on: April 01, 2011, 09:11:45 AM »
Possible to use these with a kickstart switch? Using the Amigakit one, so I guess I'd need to modify the socket on that?

Really interested in this. Actually would be happy with afew color stickers ;-) 3.1 kick, maybe a gary or paula? ;-)
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #50 on: April 01, 2011, 09:21:49 AM »
Good job Cosmos!
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #51 on: April 01, 2011, 10:46:37 AM »
>I don't care at all

New Kick is good for you, but please think about ALL Amiga Classic users and Amiga survey ! Thanks !!

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #52 on: April 01, 2011, 12:54:38 PM »
So why continue with it as selling pre-burned "ROM" chips? Make a board that carries yor original 3.1 ROM and a flash chip, like a kick switcher. When writing to the ROM addresses, obviously you're only able to write tot eh flash, so do that, even if you booted from the original 3.1 ROM.

Make a software utility that reads in your real ROM, asks for your 3.9 CD or looks on your hard drive OS install (which may be better since boing bags and other udpates are not on CD), and read all that to assemble the 3.9 "kickstart" image which is then burned to flash. Next boot, you have a 3.9 to choose from in your now programmed flash side of the kickswitch, and have a way to mark the flash side as the default boot from now on.

Do you need to ask for permission and pay license fees this way? You already have what is needed, you just need to assemble it and put it inside the flash yourself, and the utility makes that very easy to do, pretty much automatic.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2011, 02:31:41 PM »
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So why continue with it as selling pre-burned "ROM" chips? Make a board that carries yor original 3.1 ROM and a flash chip, like a kick switcher. When writing to the ROM addresses, obviously you're only able to write tot eh flash, so do that, even if you booted from the original 3.1 ROM.


Well, this does exist, mfilos showed me such a project/kit on Aminet yesterday. Thing to do, is build & sell me a drop-in device that lets this happen relatively easily, and use something like Luciferin FlashRom software.

Why no one bothered to build and sell such a device is strange, to me. But I am naive about hardware. Would add that this would clearly have nothing to do with copyright issues.
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #54 on: July 30, 2012, 07:46:03 PM »
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A new HowTo for installing a socket 42 for the future physical Kickstart 3.9.1


All the Kickstart are still under Copyright : These articles ONLY describe the installation of a socket !


A500
http://cosmosamiga.blogspot.com/2010/03/kickstart-1mo-a500-i.html
http://cosmosamiga.blogspot.com/2010/03/kickstart-1mo-a500-ii.html

A2000
http://cosmosamiga.blogspot.com/2010/03/kick-1-mo-a2000-i.html
http://cosmosamiga.blogspot.com/2010/03/kick-1mo-a2000-ii.html


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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #57 on: July 31, 2012, 05:41:53 AM »
I changed my URL now without the word 'Amiga'... I'm lucid and not naive...

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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #58 on: July 31, 2012, 08:19:44 AM »
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Does MuMapRom support 1MB roms?
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Re: Socket 42 for Kickstart 3.9.1 (A500/A2000)
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2012, 08:55:52 AM »
Any way to erase "Amiga inc." from the purple boot-screen? :flak:
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