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Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« on: March 17, 2010, 12:46:44 AM »
Okay, I"ve got an A2000 with 8 Mb RAM, a Buddha Flash Phoenix IDE controller with an A2386SX bridgeboard and I'm trying to install the Janus software to access the bridgeboard.

It goes through the process and installs all the software, but when I reboot and try to run PCPrefs, it states, "Cannot open Janus.Library."

I've tried a couple of different Amiga Janus disks I have laying around and get the same thing.

I even tried installing without the bridgeboard installed.  Software grumbled about that, but installed, but same result.

From what I've researched here in this forum, I noticed that Janus is picky about the hard drive controller it works with. True/False?  Is that what I'm dealing with here?

If Janus doesn't like Buddha (picture in mind is humourous!)  any suggestions as to what drive controller WILL work?

Any other suggestions?  PLEASE!!!!!

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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2010, 12:49:56 AM »
Can't run a BB with all 8mb of Zorro II space full, I think 6mb is the max ZII RAM you can be using.

..not that I had too much luck with my bridgeboard either way, but I did get it to boot once or twice.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2010, 12:55:44 AM »
I *think* the Bridgeboard RAM is outside the Zorro 2 space, but I'm not certain.

Janus.library (and janus.library.info - very important!) goes in SYS:Expansion, and not Libs:. Is it in the correct place?

There are a few different versions of the Janus install disk floating around. Maybe try a newer one?
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2010, 01:01:49 AM »
Yup, janus.library is in the right spot.

I've tried 2 different versions.  Actually 3, but one was WAY too old and puked all over itself.

And yes, the Bridgeboard RAM is dedicated to the bridgeboard, so it doesn't count, sort of...
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 01:03:08 AM »
I'm just going by what I read in the Bridgeboard manual, unfortunately I can't find it online.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2010, 01:18:58 AM »
Oh, just for S & G's I tried a GVP PC286 installer disk.

Won't be trying THAT again.  Danged thing guru'd on me!
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 01:20:02 AM »
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I'm just going by what I read in the Bridgeboard manual, unfortunately I can't find it online.


Actually, I've got the A2386SX manual in front of me and was following it VERY carefully.

Even twiddled with the floppy settings to see if that would make a difference.  NOT A BIT...
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 01:22:36 AM »
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Oh, just for S & G's I tried a GVP PC286 installer disk.

Won't be trying THAT again.  Danged thing guru'd on me!


Yeah, that thing is completely different. Guru is expected :)

Been absolute ages since I've done anything with the Bridgeboard. Can you get into PCConfig, or whatever it's called (on the Amiga side)?
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 01:36:53 AM »
Oops, I was thinking of the 286 bridgeboard.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 01:43:08 AM »
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Yeah, that thing is completely different. Guru is expected :)

Been absolute ages since I've done anything with the Bridgeboard. Can you get into PCConfig, or whatever it's called (on the Amiga side)?


Nope, that's where I first get the Cannot open message.  I'm trying to set up everything before I start up the PC side of the house.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 02:47:39 AM »
Quote from: curtis;547934
Yup, janus.library is in the right spot.

I've tried 2 different versions.  Actually 3, but one was WAY too old and puked all over itself.

And yes, the Bridgeboard RAM is dedicated to the bridgeboard, so it doesn't count, sort of...


The bridgeboard still needs room in the Zorro II address space. You can NOT run 8MB of Zorro II ram with a bridgeboard. 6MB is the max.

http://www.l8r.net/technical/bridgeboard.html
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 03:03:35 AM »
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The bridgeboard still needs room in the Zorro II address space. You can NOT run 8MB of Zorro II ram with a bridgeboard. 6MB is the max.

http://www.l8r.net/technical/bridgeboard.html


I stand corrected :)
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 10:31:09 AM »
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Okay, I"ve got an A2000 with 8 Mb RAM, a Buddha Flash Phoenix IDE controller with an A2386SX bridgeboard and I'm trying to install the Janus software to access the bridgeboard.


Bridgeboard (of any kind) needs 2Mo of ZorroII address space, so with 8Mo of RAM, there is no space for it, and your bridgeboard is not seen by the janus.library .

The max you can is 6Mo of RAM (set jumpers on your ram card ?) and the bridgeboard.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 12:47:19 PM »
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The bridgeboard still needs room in the Zorro II address space. You can NOT run 8MB of Zorro II ram with a bridgeboard. 6MB is the max.

http://www.l8r.net/technical/bridgeboard.html


Well, nuts!  I remember that NOW!  Guess when I get home, I'll have to pry out 2 Mb of RAM out of my board and see what happens.

Standby for further updates.

Thanks to everyone who responded.
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Re: Janus/Bridgeboard problem
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 02:31:12 PM »
If you're still using the 8mb board you got from me, I think it has jumpers that'll let you set it to 6MB without pulling chips.

Don't quote me on that, though.
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