Backup using MakeCD

[Cass]

OK, it's time to free some HD space. I have an old backup CD of my dload dir, and I just wanted to add some files in (multisession).

That's how I prepared the CD:
I've added the files I wanted to get rid of the HD, to the CD (keeping the paths the same as the old ones).
At the end, I added a CD-Track containing the latest session. This according to the manual, if added at the end, gives priority to the new files above it, while keeping the non common files of the previous sessions.

What I expected to be done is to replace the existing files on the CD with the newer ones of the HD (that's why I added the CD track at the end), and add some others that weren't in the CD.

The fact is that I get an error, that the directories already exist. I thought that it checks only for the files of the previous sessions to be ignored, and not the directories also.

Any ideas on how to add files/dirs for a multi-session backup?
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[Framiga]

@Cass

i like to know me too :-)

The only one time i've tryed , i've had the same behaviour as you.

So, use TAO, create a Session without close it, and then?

Someone told me that MakeCD must read again the previous backup files  but . .  .!!!!

Ciao

[lionstorm]

me too, never had luck with multisession CD even when setting up cachecdfs prefs to multisession instead of multivolume. Should be related to the filesystem used by the CD-Rom not able to recognized multisession.
Lio
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[lempkee]

hmm that sounds tricky, never thought of that.
i just burn monthly sys: backups...
(non compressed, ie so i could boot from cd)

not a fan of multisession stuff so ...i cant help really.

[Cass]

Multisession works. You just have to include in the sources, the CDR track of the last session. What really does, is to include the previous CD-tree & files (CDR track), plus the new ones (file system).

@Framiga

It's been a lot of time since my last AMiGA CD-burn, but this CD must have been burt with TAO and the CD-session fixed (not the whole CD-fixed). Else you won't be able to read the CD files. This allows you to add a session later.

The problem is that I have to add files to existing directories (older files get ignored, but what happens to whole directories?).
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[Rassilon]

The problem might be that you are trying to replace old files with newer ones, and I don't think that this is possible.

Imagine this: the cdrom driver loads the first session sees a file called bloggs.txt, then moves onto the next session and seees another file called bloggs.txt - its gets confused.

Just a suggestion.

Rassilon

[Cass]

Note the second paragraph:

From the MakeCD guide

CD-R Track
     Use the popup gadget to select the track that you wish to record
     into the ISO image. You can record more than one track from the
     same CD into the ISO image.

     Please note that the sequence of the sources is important. If
     files from the hard drive should have precedence over files with
     the same name that have already been burned, cite the CD-R track
     *after* the files from the hard drive.

     For example, if you burn a data CD in four sessions and you would
     like to have access to all the data in each session, when you
     create a new ISO image, simply record the last track that was
     burnt into the image. This will make all the data on the CD
     visible. If you forget to do this once, e.g. if you did this for
     track three but forgot to do this for track for, do not worry.
     Simply record both track three and track four into the next image
     (track five). If there is no new data in the new image, the track
     will take only seconds to write and uses a minimum of storage
     space on the CD. However, fixing the session will, as usual, cost
     about 13.5 MB.

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[Framiga]

@Cass

AFAIk if you want (like me) to attempt an "incremental backup", you must take OPEN your session.

You''ll be able to read the data ONLY using the CD burner itself and not with the CD player.

Only if you'll take the Session open, you will be able to update the backup, how? . . . i don't know.

Ciao

PS- anyway i'm still useing the Multivolume method, not the best but usefull.

When i insert a Multivolume in the CD drive, a window appeares with all the Volume names.(you must choose Multivolume from CacheCDFS prefs).

[SilvrDrgn]

What I've never been able to figure out is how to get CacheCDFS to read previous sessions.  Say for instance I have three sessions, and I want to go back and read something from session #1.  I can only get CacheCDFS on my system to read the most recent session (i.e. #3 in the above example).  How do I get it to read session #1 ?

[Cass]

@ SilvrDrgn

As Framiga said, you just have to sellect "multivolume"  on the CacheCDF  FS-sellector. Then, pops up a window with the sessions you have written and you sellect the one you like. Afterwards you`ll be able to see only the files included in that specific track/session.

@Framiga

 I know, but I`m left with only 1 CD-R (the phillips was dead, less than a year I bought it. Fanno veramente schiffo `sti masterizzatori da 4 soldi!), and it`s on the PC side :-( .
As for leaving the session open, this is obligatory for burning "audio" tracks: The CD-players can read only the first session (containing a certain number of tracks that equals the number of songs). Every track/song added after a closed session is not seen by the CD-decks.
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[Framiga]

@Cass

anyway, if i close the Session, and then i add another Session i have a Multivolume disk :-(

I don't know why!!

Ciao

[SilvrDrgn]

Cass wrote:
@ SilvrDrgn
As Framiga said, you just have to sellect "multivolume"  on the CacheCDF  FS-sellector. Then, pops up a window with the sessions you have written and you sellect the one you like. Afterwards you`ll be able to see only the files included in that specific track/session.

I'll give it a shot tonight.  Thanks!

[Cass]

@ Framiga

Allora:
MakeCD: Aggiungi->Finestra Opzioni Tracce:
Sorgente: Tipo->Filesystem (click sulla freccietta)

Impostazioni immagine ISO: Sorgenti->Aggungi
Tipo: Filesystem (ripeti per tutti i files che vuoi aggiungere)
Tipo: Traccia CD-R (Scegliete una traccia sorgente) Qua' scegli la sessione precedente che vuoi aggiungere ai nuovi files (il CDR con la vecchia sessione deve essere inserito).
OK.-> Scrivi tracce... e VIA!

Non dimenticare di tornare a FS tipo Multisessione, utilizzando CacheCDFS prefs. Prova a fare qualche CDRW, cosi' non rischi di rovinarli ;-)


@ SilvrDrgn

You're welcome :-)

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[Framiga]

Hi Cass

GRAZIE :-)

Ciao

[Cass]

@Framiga

Figurati Franco :-)

@All AMiGA Users

Final note:
Unfortunatelly, there is powerfull software for AMiGA but it has lost the kind of feeling of the first years (straight forwardness, intuition, easy of use). Seems more like the LinUX mayhem.

In this case a comparison with software on the "other" platform seems inevitable: The Nero burner is easy as DOpus4, you just have to drag&drop what you need to add, delete what you don`t want anymore (as a matter of fact, this means that these  files are hidden to the new session), and overwrite files (the same thing as deletion, more or less). The files of the previous session appear ghosted.

The point is that the same job can be done with less sweating, just a few clicks (does it ring you a bell?) and you know exactly how will be the final CD session: appears on your edit window!
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