Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

[bloodline]

My fault there, but are any of the x64 CPUs fully compatible with their 32-bit counterparts? No, try running any of the 486 apps on an i7 with 7 64-bit. Get back to me if you get it to run?

Of course 486 software runs on the new x64 (or x86-64 depending which name you prefer)... Hell, all modern x86 chips support long mode (the 64bit mode we are talking about)... Scary, bu they will still even run software written for the 8088, as used in the original IBM PC!!!

Please do some research BEFORE you make ignorant posts about technical issues...

[fishy_fiz]

To get similar graphics in a PC (or Mac) requires a $200 graphics card alone...now you see the point about your G3 being irrelevant to the discussion?

I didnt read the entire thread, so I appologize if Ive missed something here, but even an old $80 gf9600gt runs rings around both ps3 and xb360 in terms of graphics power. The price of pc gear these days makes it hard for even consoles to be price competitive in terms of performance. I enjoy my consoles on occasion, but in terms of raw power and graphics quality theyre completely and utterly destroyed by even mid spec pc gear (although it's a shame in some ways that games are written with the lowest common denominator (consoles) in mind as pc gamers often get little more than higher resolution/higher image quality versions of console games (little bit st-itis here)).

[save2600]

...it's a shame in some ways that games are written with the lowest common denominator (consoles) in mind as pc gamers often get little more than higher resolution/higher image quality versions of console games (little bit st-itis here)).

Hmm... not unlike what happened with the Amiga and all those crappy ST ports. Sucks to hear that is still going on, but doesn't surprise me in the least. It's human nature to both a) not live up to your potential and b) lazily port software from weaker systems.  :lol:

[dreamcast270mhz]

Okay, try running Blood on an i7 with 7 64-bit? Natively now, no vdmsound or dosbox with everything working? Good luck.

[kolla]

@dreamcast270mhz
What's your point here?
You can't run 32bit games natively on 64bit OS on PowerPC either "just like that", if that's what you think.

[AmigaHeretic]

... Or you could just install a Flash drive instead of a Hard drive.

I think you miss the point.  The Amiga had the best of both worlds.  Like computer and Video games system with much of the OS in rom.

i.e.  Someone could distribute a demo CD/Flash drive image and everyone could boot from it, but they do not need to have the OS on CD for it to run.  (it being illegal to distribute the OS)  If the OS is in ROM then we can do stuff like this.

Nintendo Wii for example.  I can put a DVD in a boot.  No need to have the entire Systems OS on the disk.

[warpdesign]

Okay, try running Blood on an i7 with 7 64-bit? Natively now, no vdmsound or dosbox with everything working? Good luck.

What's your point ?

[graffias79]

ANYWAY Back on topic..

Will there every be another computer like the amiga?

Not exactly.  I mean there IS a rabid following for each piece of the current Amiga pie, but others outside of the community aren't very interested in anything we have to offer yet.  Unfortunately with all of the petty in-fighting the community is unstable and will never grow.

[bloodline]

Okay, try running Blood on an i7 with 7 64-bit? Natively now, no vdmsound or dosbox with everything working? Good luck.

I'm not sure what "Blood" is, I assume a game... But I imagine the only problem would be getting graphics and sound drivers... The code would run just fine otherwise, I found a full set of Win3.11 install floppies here at work last year and was able to install it on my Athlon64... I have even run Visicalc on my Athlon64 under a native install of Dos 5.2... The CPU is the most compaible part of the system!

[dreamcast270mhz]

Not my point at all, just pointing out that some older applications look at a new CPU, and freak out or don't run at all. maybe I was a little harsh with that last post, but If I use my friends iMac G5, I can run an OS 8 app in classic without having to about it freaking out or crashing, you are right in saying the x86 CPU is a very good and successful architecture, I just don't and won't use it because I hate using monopoly HW that is so low quality compared with my PPC machines.

Anyways, lets just drop it, isn't worth me or anyone else getting worked up over. I agree to disagree with the rest of you intel/AMD fans.

And as I said, in terms of architecture and OS, MorphOS and the PPC macs and Pegs are the closest relatives to the Amiga. Of course there will be innovations that fit their bill, but if PPC ever dies, it will mean the end of the Amiga's life in terms of HW. And as long as the X1000 is a good HW piece, I will buy it, run OS4 and MOS if it gets ported, as well as linux with Mac-On-Linux if I can

[tone007]

but If I use my friends iMac G5, I can run an OS 8 app in classic without having to about it freaking out or crashing

..but you can't run an OS 10.6+ only app on it!

That's going to be more of an issue soon.  The G4s and G5s are selling for peanuts around here because people are abandoning ship to stay current.

[Hell Labs]

Staying current... hah. to be honest i'd be happy with "can watch youtube".

[Tension]

Os 8??

Pfffffffffffffffft!!!!!!

[dreamcast270mhz]

A10 attack! is a good classic flight sim... And Tone, I don't care about that, if I DID care, I'd have gotten an intel mac, but no, I didn't, I got 2 G4 laptops and a G4 MDD. I really don't care for all that MW2 crap and I have a 360 and Wii for all that.

[tone007]

Ha, I've got more G4 Macs than you, and that's after selling off all the laptops.

Hard to say no to stuff people are giving away, unfortunately they'll probably end up in the garbage when the hard drives fail and I don't feel like replacing them.

They're OK for light browsing for now, but I always move to a nice dual core machine when it's time for anything CPU intensive.

[Hell Labs]

CPU Intensive like what? And sell them. G4s make decent computers still. Hell, my stereo system in my bedroom is a G3, and handles itself just fine with word processing, photoshop, even a bit of 3D in sketchup from time to time. The trick is to use software from roughly the year a computer is made, excepting web browsers.