MorphOS is out for MacMini G4! No cheaper Amiga available today!

[zylesea]

People asks about the cheapest way to enter Amigaworld on? Get a MacMini G4 and you have a superb Amiga system which your gf or wife even will tolerate. What stops you going for a cheap MacMini really?

You can get it upto 1.5GHz with lots of MEM and good HD space... Amiga community should start to care more of each other, either its red or blue or black. Inform people that cheapest way to enter Amigaworld at the moment is to get a MacMini and it got the SPEED!...

Think of it! Help Amigaworld community you also!

And while MorphOS for the Mac mini is available since October 2009 the next update will introduce support for even cheaper hardware: PowerMac G4!
3rd party accelerators reach clocks up to 2 GHz.
Bog standard ~1 GHz PowerMac g4s are ridiculously cheap.
Also on the list: eMac (not confirmed when support is thought to be included)
 and probably some Powerbooks (no final decision if and when).

[zylesea]

What if you still have your key, but your Mac Mini gives up the blue smoke? Will your key work on another Mac mini? My understanding is no. In that case if the MOS team pulled a Kruse, the user would be screwed. I'm not saying they would, just they could and there is precedence for it in the kommunity.

No the key works only on teh maschine you reg'ed it to (MAC). But as long as the team is there and you can provide evidence that your maschine is broken, you'll get a new key. If the leam leaves and doesn't provide a general key then, you're indeed in the Kruse situation. But I doubt the team will give up within the next 24 months - and after 24 month I think the cost is written off anyway.

PS: I understood reinstall as a new installation on a new hardware. And for that situation post #11 is true.

[redrumloa]

And while MorphOS for the Mac mini is available since October 2009 the next update will introduce support for even cheaper hardware: PowerMac G4!
3rd party accelerators reach clocks up to 2 GHz.
Bog standard ~1 GHz PowerMac g4s are ridiculously cheap.
Also on the list: eMac (not confirmed when support is thought to be included)
and probably some Powerbooks (no final decision if and when).

Do you have a link?? I asked about PowerMac G4 (on AO, not MOS team) support a week or so ago and was told this was not planned nor likely. That would rock.

[zylesea]

Do you have a link?? I asked about PowerMac G4 (on AO, not MOS team) support a week or so ago and was told this was not planned nor likely. That would rock.

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6684&forum=11

[Golem!dk]

What if you still have your key, but your Mac Mini gives up the blue smoke? My wife's new Mac Mini (x86) gave up the smoke after 1.25 years, so the reliability of 2nd hand machines can be of concern. Will your key work on another Mac mini? My understanding is no. In that case if the MOS team pulled a Kruse, the user would be screwed. I'm not saying they would, just they could and there is precedence for it in the kommunity.

Sure... I suppose they could all agree to screw over their users, but having been a MorphOS user for close to 7 years now I don't see that in the immediate future.

[redrumloa]

 But I doubt the team will give up within the next 24 months - and after 24 month I think the cost is written off anyway.

This is the Amiga kommunity, we are used to trying to squeeze 20+++ years out of a computer/OS ;-)

[redrumloa]

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6684&forum=11

Fantastic, thank you! When my financial situation gets worked out this will be a slam dunk, crappy license scheme or not.

[klx300r]

People asks about the cheapest way to enter Amigaworld on? Get a MacMini G4 and you have a superb Amiga system which your gf or wife even will tolerate. What stops you going for a cheap MacMini really? ...

actually the cheapest way to run an Amiga clone would be to run AROS on any old PC really or a modern netbook...(they actually have a modern PC configured just for AROS use for 149 EURO now too)...they have come a long way and from what I hear 68k games work great !

[Firedawg]

No the key works only on teh maschine you reg'ed it to (MAC). But as long as the team is there and you can provide evidence that your maschine is broken, you'll get a new key. If the leam leaves and doesn't provide a general key then, you're indeed in the Kruse situation. But I doubt the team will give up within the next 24 months - and after 24 month I think the cost is written off anyway.

PS: I understood reinstall as a new installation on a new hardware. And for that situation post #11 is true.

Has the question been asked as to the possibility of upgrading say an Efika MorphOS license to a MacMini License?  I have an Efika, but would love to have my MacMini 1.5 running without the registration reminder:).  I have a MacMini 1.5 running dual boot Mac OS X and MorphOS 2.4, but I have not been able to get around the fact that I own a license on MorphOS on an inferior hardware setup.  If I could pay a "small" upgrade price to move it from my Efika to my MacMini would be appreciated immensely.

The Dawg

[klx300r]

oh and AROS registration is FREE.. so coupled with this deal for Imica system (http://www.clusteruk.com/SitePortalP...cfid=0&did=118) ..the title of this thread should be modified :-)

[Hell Labs]

from what I hear 68k games work great !

Yeah, I forgot! x86 pcs totally have the chipset and everything!

What if you still have your key, but your Mac Mini gives up the blue  smoke? My wife's new Mac Mini (x86) gave up the smoke after 1.25 years,  so the reliability of 2nd hand machines can be of concern. Will your key  work on another Mac mini? My understanding is no. In that case if the  MOS team pulled a Kruse, the user would be screwed. I'm not saying they  would, just they could and there is precedence for it in the kommunity.       

Bathtub curve. If a machine still works after a couple of years, it'll work for centuries. Leaky caps and hard disks not withstanding, but that's really more maintenance than anything else.

[zylesea]

Has the question been asked as to the possibility of upgrading say an Efika MorphOS license to a MacMini License?  I have an Efika, but would love to have my MacMini 1.5 running without the registration reminder:).  I have a MacMini 1.5 running dual boot Mac OS X and MorphOS 2.4, but I have not been able to get around the fact that I own a license on MorphOS on an inferior hardware setup.  If I could pay a "small" upgrade price to move it from my Efika to my MacMini would be appreciated immensely.

The Dawg

Yes, the question has been asked before. The answer to that question is: no, you cannot move the license from your working Efika to the Mac mini.
I think this situation is a bit unfortunate, but also understandable since there is no way to warrant that the Efika key ultimately gets destroyed (only the word of the user).
Suggested approaches for now:
a) sell your Efika w/ key for a fair price and re-register your mini for the retail.
b) bite the sour apple and do a 2nd registration (I did).

Once/if MorphOS gets a bit wider spread maybe the registration scheme can get a bit more friendly. For now the team decided for a very strict scheme because it is relatively easy to maintain. But I would favour a odification of the current scheme, too (my best suggestion: lower the registration price to 99.99 EUR).

[Tempest]

The MorphOS license scheme is the main reason I dumped MorphOS after 6 years, allthough I still find it the best of the three Amiga OS clones and the only one I'm interested in. I want to be free to use a registered MorphOS copy on another computer if I decide to upgrade to a better one. As long as this restriction remains in the license scheme I won't buy another MorphOS capable computer again. I won't buy any OS with such a license scheme.

[Firedawg]

The MorphOS license scheme is the main reason I dumped MorphOS after 6 years, allthough I still find it the best of the three Amiga OS clones and the only one I'm interested in. I want to be free to use a registered MorphOS copy on another computer if I decide to upgrade to a better one. As long as this restriction remains in the license scheme I won't buy another MorphOS capable computer again. I won't buy any OS with such a license scheme.

Thanks zylesea for the update and suggestions.  I agree with you Tempest as to the unfairness of the license scheme used for MorphOS.  I have been watching my $$ very close and I cannot justify at this time on another license to expand my appreciation of the MorphOS.  I must use Windows as its my main work OS, but I do so grudgingly for their contempt on us licensees.  At least with Windows I can reinstall the licensed OS if I upgrade my computer system, which does not say much for MorphOS.  

The Dawg

[Daff]

I like MorphOS very much. But I must admit the prize and the scheme of the licence is a weak point for MorphOS. I often present MorphOS to friends but when I say "you must pay 150 euros, and it's only for one computer", these friends are less motivated to try MorphOS further.

I hope a ultra cheap solution (PowerMac G4 -100 euros- with new MorphOS licence -99 euros-) will be available soon.

[adolescent]

Are they still charging VAT to non-VAT countries?  I resisted registering my Efika for this reason.