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Offline JimS

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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2010, 03:26:03 AM »
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But given the success of the minimig, if someone was capable of putting out what was basically an original A500 / 1200 / whatever, whether using FPGA's, magic faerie dust to produce the original chips again or whatever, would you buy it?



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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2010, 03:54:15 AM »
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Absolutely as long as it was 99% compatible. Not being 99% compatible is really offputting for the minimig.

You've got to be kidding, the MiniMig is more compatible with my A500/A600 systems than they are compatible with one another.

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Put in networking and it will be a must have gadget.
I'd probably pay around $500 for such a machine.

For a MiniMig with ethernet? Hang on while I find some glue.... :laughing:

Seriously though - make a MiniMig 2.0 with 16MB RAM, matching the ~50MHz 68000 CPU with 8MB of FastRAM and 2MB ChipRAM, some more for kickstart and whatever clever things one can do with the MBs left, simulate the lance chip for A2065 emulation, and I would no doubt buy it, even for $500. AGA is not really that important to me, but I know it is for others.

Add a socket for dropping in a 030 and maybe even 882 (dont we all have those floating around somewhere?), and a RAM socket for more RAM, and I would not even look too much at the pricetag :)

But anyhow, isnt this what the FPGAArcade is all about?
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2010, 04:02:12 AM »
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The main thing would be to get hardware that isn't 15 years old. A lot of the stuff out there is starting to show its age sadly


This is true, but to replace a $50 item (or what ever) and pay $400 for the same thing but with new parts is just plain insanity. You could get 8 of them hand have those 8 last just as long as a "new one". But hey, it has been proven time and time again, that people are willing to dish out insane money just because it has the word Amiga on it.

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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2010, 04:12:58 AM »
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This is true, but to replace a $50 item (or what ever) and pay $400 for the same thing but with new parts is just plain insanity. You could get 8 of them hand have those 8 last just as long as a "new one". But hey, it has been proven time and time again, that people are willing to dish out insane money just because it has the word Amiga on it.

BTW I am now selling "New" water bottles for $100 a pop. it is the same as any 50 cents bottle of water, but it is newer and has an Amiga boing ball on the label. If refrigerated, this bottle of water MAY last longer than the original bottle, but it is newer and shiner and has a sparkling jemstone glued to the lid. PM for details


Brand new Atom systems (for a HTPC, motherboard, cpu and graphics) are $200 to $260. An Amiga clone wouldn't qualify for a 10,000 unit discount, so $500 is probably reasonable.

I can get tap water for a couple of cents but it smells foul and I don't want to drink it unless it's boiled.
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2010, 04:21:08 AM »
Id like to see an Amiga version of the C64DTV.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C64_Direct-to-TV

A $50 A500 or A1200-in-a-joystick with a SD slot for storage and hackable expansion ports...

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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2010, 04:24:45 AM »
@quarkx

You're repeating yourself. Not everyone here share you sense of "sanity", get over it already. I'm one of those who would be happy to replace old relics that can fall apart any day (and also tend to have all kinds of weird problems due to age) with new, tinier, more robust hardware - not to mention programmable hardware that easily can be updated. The MiniMig is the most fun amiga thing I have bought in years, definetly the number one highlight of 2008-09 for me. And it just gets better and better :)
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2010, 04:46:57 AM »
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UH.... the Minimig IS a cloned classic Amiga


I was thinking something with higher capability. Faster processors, more ram, supports two mice, can read actual amiga floppies, etc etc.

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This is true, but to replace a $50 item (or what ever) and pay $400 for the same thing but with new parts is just plain insanity. You could get 8 of them hand have those 8 last just as long as a "new one". But hey, it has been proven time and time again, that people are willing to dish out insane money just because it has the word Amiga on it.


Well, to an extent you are right, but amiga prices for used hardware are climbing up and they wont be around forever.

Besides, buying something second hand is always going to be cheaper than buying it new. That's like saying you should never buy new clothes because its cheaper from goodwill.
 

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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2010, 06:32:40 AM »
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Would be kinda nice if someone made a small FPGA based board with an A1200 trapdoor compatible slot into which you could shove your existing accelerator kit.

that something that will never happen cause industry already moved from 5v ICs long time ago, now it's getting difficult even to find 3.3v stuff. all the level converting would be a nightmare, not worth the trouble just to support legacy expansion stuff.

But a small FPGA based board that will blow the most expanded A1200 out of the water is definitely a possibility, I believe it will be with us, maybe not very soon, but somebody wll make it eventually (if not the Natami team).
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2010, 10:21:26 PM »
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2010, 10:35:11 PM »
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Yes, I would buy a Natami if I could afford it.

I'd buy a Natami too if the thing was actually for sale! lol
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2010, 11:55:50 PM »
no
Why I still have my Amigas is somethig I keep asking myself.
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #25 on: February 14, 2010, 12:18:28 AM »
If it was a cloned A4000T with a 100Mhz 060 and a G5 for about £300 then yes.

Otherwise no.

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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2010, 04:26:44 AM »
How about an aTablet...as opposed to an aPad. AOS4 should be adequate for a handheld device.
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2010, 05:25:03 AM »
I don't see the point when you can probaly get the real thing for cheaper (at least in my parts that is) :-)
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2010, 09:30:40 AM »
Quote from: quarkx;542131why the heck would you pay $300-$400 for a Clone than $50 to get an A500.If you ask me, these people are absolutely crazy.[/QUOTE


ok! so you are saying than people that pay (for example) +50000$ for a new ford mustang are crazy for not pay less than 10000$ for an old second hand one
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Re: Would you buy a cloned classic amiga?
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 14, 2010, 10:38:00 AM »
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I don't see the point when you can probaly get the real thing for cheaper (at least in my parts that is) :-)


With the verious FPGA projects I think the key point is reconfigurability, I think. How about just loading a new core when it turns out game X doesn't work with a 68030? How about loading a C64, an Atari ST, an MSX or whatever? That's what's happening over at fpgaarcade.com for example.

That, and small form factor, reliable and new hardware, low power consumption, etc.