[Silly] How amiga communities work

[runequester]

Just last night.

Out of curiosity, what did you do on it?

[warpdesign]

Anyone Im missing?

Amiga users bashing PC/Windows/Mac/Linux while rebooting their Amiga cause an application has just brought everything down: "man ! It boots so much faster than my Windoze 3Ghz box !"

[leszeka33]

3 dudes in the corner muttering about Amiga will take over the world  

It's not about conquering the world.
The point is simply a hobby.
It is about writing software for something that is not pc. And it is as fast.
Hobby does not mean making every detail of one thousand hours instead of 15 minutes.
Because of the weaker Amiga does not work.
Hobby is writing software for the Amiga without premature optimization.

[Hell Labs]

Amiga users bashing PC/Windows/Mac/Linux while rebooting their Amiga cause an application has just brought everything down: "man ! It boots so much faster than my Windoze 3Ghz box !"

*Reboots for 5th time in hour*

Man this boot time is so fast! whoa!

*Opens Wookiechat, OWB*

*system freezes*

*reboots for 6th time in hour*

I think it's clear the amigaish systems only boot/respond faster because there's absolutely nothing holding them together other than hopes and dreams. Once you get an app that doesn't want to play nice for whatever reason, the entire thing falls down. If only someone at motorolla put in an MMU...

[runequester]

*Reboots for 5th time in hour*
 
Man this boot time is so fast! whoa!
 
*Opens Wookiechat, OWB*
 
*system freezes*
 
*reboots for 6th time in hour*
 
I think it's clear the amigaish systems only boot/respond faster because there's absolutely nothing holding them together other than hopes and dreams. Once you get an app that doesn't want to play nice for whatever reason, the entire thing falls down. If only someone at motorolla put in an MMU...

Well, it was also kitbashed together over time. The typical amiga OS install has a ton of stuff that was pieced together from a ton of different sources, much of which was never expected when they wrote the OS (the various internet stuff f.x.)
 
So I guess its a wonder that it does work as much as it does

[persia]

The bloody thing has been unstable since day one, clean installed systems guru.  It's part of the Amiga charm.  Hey we crash, but look how fast we reboot!  Amiagish systems are a fun hobby but can anyone seriously depend on them?

Too many rose coloured glasses around I think.  Just enjoy the hobby and stop dreaming of world domination.

[runequester]

The bloody thing has been unstable since day one, clean installed systems guru. It's part of the Amiga charm. Hey we crash, but look how fast we reboot! Amiagish systems are a fun hobby but can anyone seriously depend on them?
 
Too many rose coloured glasses around I think. Just enjoy the hobby and stop dreaming of world domination.

Mine was pretty stable but it was a base A1200 install, and didn't get expanded a whole lot other than a hard drive. I never messed with 1.3 and 2.0 workbench much so they may well have been much worse.
 
 
You can't always blame the OS for a dodgy application, though you can most certainly blame it for failing to deal with the dodgy application.
 
 
 
But yes, no world domination. Just relax and have fun with it.

[ToddH]

Wow, some of you are definitely holding on to some old hatred!

[Hell Labs]

Well, it was also kitbashed together over time. The typical amiga OS install has a ton of stuff that was pieced together from a ton of different sources, much of which was never expected when they wrote the OS (the various internet stuff f.x.)
 
So I guess its a wonder that it does work as much as it does

I like to think of "updated" amigas like cars in a demolition derby game. Banged up pretty badly with the wheels wobbling over the place, large sections of the structure worryingly absent, was put together from the wrecks of three others, and it's also on fire. Yet somehow, it still moves.

wb 3.1 with the commercial software of the era is pretty stable. wb 3.9 is in a twlight zone where people using it want to use whatever the latest software is, but that means downloading all sorts of weird crap to add to the system. pretty soon it's wobbling all over the place and you can see daylight through the floor.

[runequester]

I like to think of "updated" amigas like cars in a demolition derby game. Banged up pretty badly with the wheels wobbling over the place, large sections of the structure worryingly absent, was put together from the wrecks of three others, and it's also on fire. Yet somehow, it still moves.
 
wb 3.1 with the commercial software of the era is pretty stable. wb 3.9 is in a twlight zone where people using it want to use whatever the latest software is, but that means downloading all sorts of weird crap to add to the system. pretty soon it's wobbling all over the place and you can see daylight through the floor.

Thats the best analogy for it I have heard
 
Thanks

[stefcep2]

i think the Amiga's crashing have been exagerated here.

 My A4000 68060 with CV 64 was very stable.  i used it for many things Photogenics, ImageFx, Cd burning, hell I even typed out soemone's divorce submissions in Wordworth.  It crashed, but that was nearly always due to reproduceable bug in the app, and not every hour as some people have said.

I knew an Amiga "pirate" ( I know shame on me) who had an A4000 with a warp engine who never switched it off and had up times in the weeks, and this guy had dozens of patches, mcp, cgx all the while downloading, uploading, irc'ing, browsing, YAM, burning from 4 scsi cdr's (he was into PS1 at the time), and word processing for a thesis in Final Writer, using a heavily configured DOpus 4.  His dOpus 4 config truly was amazing, like nothing I've seen before or since.  But he really knew what he was doing in that he knew how to configure his system to avoid conflicts.  At the time he was multitasking so many things that it would have brought the piping hot P3/Win98 systems to a grinding halt.  I remember PC dudes picking up their freshly burnt copies of ps1 games who believed he had some built for piracy custom rig..I remember him refusing to upgrade to 3.9 because he just could not get the stability he had with 3.1.

[Homer]

Yup, there must be something wrong with my OS3.5 A1200t, as it crashes so infrequently that I can't remember when it last happened. Must apply some more patches I suppose :hammer:

[warpdesign]

It's part of the Amiga charm

I wouldn't call that crashes faster than it boots a "charm"

[Hell Labs]

I think somebody should make an amiga clone board that reboots if you slam lots of random keys repeatedly. Would make the whole thing much more efficent.

[leszeka33]

I like to think of "updated" amigas like cars in a demolition derby game. Banged up pretty badly with the wheels wobbling over the place, large sections of the structure worryingly absent, was put together from the wrecks of three others, and it's also on fire. Yet somehow, it still moves.

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Amiga OS 3.9 has jpeg.datatype.
Amiga Os 3.1 has not.
The idea of resignation from the jpeg, as something someone in the Amiga Os 3.9 does not like, is extremely stupid.

[Kronos]

Amiga OS 3.9 has jpeg.datatype.
Amiga Os 3.1 has not.
The idea of resignation from the jpeg, as something someone in the Amiga Os 3.9 does not like, is extremely stupid.

Dunno, but quoting and then writing some out of context incoherent drabble surely ain't no sign of "smart" either ....