New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?

[persia]

You wonder about someone calling a PentiumD modern, but that aside an Atom N270 draws 2.5 Watts on the flip side my Dual Quad Core (8 cores total) Mac Pro will probably draw 50 watts idle and 250 when it's pushed, but which machine would you prefer to do 3D animation on?

[Wayne]

You wonder about someone calling a PentiumD modern, but that aside an Atom N270 draws 2.5 Watts on the flip side my Dual Quad Core (8 cores total) Mac Pro will probably draw 50 watts idle and 250 when it's pushed, but which machine would you prefer to do 3D animation on?

That's the problem I see with a lot of the guys around here.  We're all so used to "making due" with 60 Mhz 030's and such that most have no idea what "modern" really is, and is really capable of.  

The fact that my iPhone has 2x the speed and easily 1/10th the power draw of the FASTEST PPC-driven classic Amiga *should* say something about the lack of perspective being shown by PPC faithful when it comes to their defense of the dead.

Wayne

[pwermonger]

While I agree PowerPC was great until it slipped and slid in performance to the x86 especially the new multicore 64bit processors, I don't think this issue is Hyperion putzing around.
 
Altering the Mac OS to run on Intel took a LOT of work, time, manhours, effort and that was with an existing userbase and a functioning parent company along with income from other businesses (iPod and music sales, mainly the latter which is like selling air and getting a cut for it since you dont have to 'produce' anything but a reusable server infrastructure to make the transaction happen).
 
Hyperion has a real issue to look at where AmigaOS is already mostly written for PowerPC so try to improve it there, or try to do a total rewrite and abandon every piece of existing software, in effect releasing a new OS on an existing platform which already has three mainstream OSes kicking each other in the privates over marketshare.
 
Really a matter of what can they do with their resources realistically and produce product.
 
That all said, I'm not jumping up in my seat over the announcement of this 'new' AmigaOne. When I want my Amiga fix I have Amiga Forever, my 4000, 1200, CD32, 3000, 600, CDTV, 2000, 500, 1000, to play with and right now best way to get a fast Amiga in real hardware is the MacMini I bought to run MorphOS. I really think Hyperion needs to get Amiga 4.x running on this instead of trying to get folks to buy new more expensive hardware.

[jorkany]

Altering the Mac OS to run on Intel took a LOT of work, time, manhours, effort and that was with an existing userbase and a functioning parent company along with income from other businesses (iPod and music sales, mainly the latter which is like selling air and getting a cut for it since you dont have to 'produce' anything but a reusable server infrastructure to make the transaction happen).

Actually, Apple claims it didn't take a lot of work, because OS X was developed to run on Intel from Day 1 in parallel with the PPC version. It just wasn't publicized that they had an Intel version until Steve decided to ditch PPC.

[Karlos]

Actually, Apple claims it didn't take a lot of work, because OS X was developed to run on Intel from Day 1 in parallel with the PPC version. It just wasn't publicized that they had an Intel version until Steve decided to ditch PPC.

That's not really a correct statement then. It clearly took just as "much" work as it did to create the PPC version, plus the additional work of integrating Rosetta.

[Hell Labs]

Actually it took zero effort. NeXTSTEP went 68k > x86 and never left at any point.

[Karlos]

Actually it took zero effort. NeXTSTEP went 68k > x86 and never left at any point.

There's more to OSX than NeXTStep. They might have inherited that Objective C nightmare (yep, let's create a language by combining the conflicting syntaxes of two totally different ones together. Still, has some nice features, however fugly it is) from there, but the important stuff is from BSD.

[Tension]

I love bang paths!!!

[Piru]

Why is the efika mx a bad idea, beacuse of the cpu?  I belive thats the same chip thats in the new Nokia N900 , which is pretty amazing, my friend has one and its a nifft chip with seperate video/audio and call related cores.

N900 video is a separate chip aswell as call related stuff (the modem). Efika mx doesn't have those.

Posted with N900 btw.

[Linde]

I like how AROS pretty much goes unnoticed by the x86 league, and pretty much every mention of it in threads like this goes unnoticed.

These people are not looking for Amiga OS - they are looking for something that is called Amiga OS.

[jj]

N900 video is a separate chip aswell as call related stuff (the modem). Efika mx doesn't have those.
 
Posted with N900 btw.

 
What do you think of it.  My friend has one but he is not the best person on sounding out a phone.  I know its basically a linux handheld computer that they have for the first time for this series added call functions to.

Reviews I have read have said its great if you want to get your hands dirty ( that me all over), but the phone side of things not great.

[paolone]

I like how AROS pretty much goes unnoticed by the x86 league, and pretty much every mention of it in threads like this goes unnoticed. These people are not looking for Amiga OS - they are looking for something that is called Amiga OS.

Which long ago stated for "Amiga Research Operating System"...

[kolla]

Actually, I think even Hyperion would love to port OS4.x to X86 but they face two huge obstacles........time and money.

And byteorder.

[persia]

Only if they made a very poor coding choice early on.  We don't know that they did.

And byteorder.

[kolla]

Well, all the software available for AmigaOS today, from 1.x to 4.x assumes bigendian, change that and there will be major breakage. Which is fine by me, the opportunity can be used to fix all the other issues as well, memory protection and all that. And instead of integrated emulation to run old apps you would need a much more boxed solution.

An alternative is to go ARM which can be run in both bigendian and little-endian modes.

[sian]

dont want to interrupt ,
im new  but cant we just be happy wwith the new amiga x1000 news .
it been a long time and  i think we deserve a present for our constant support . she is well worth it.

btw happy birthday 25th annie