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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2010, 10:07:19 AM »
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As for me, whether or not the machine ever exists or is seen "in the wild", it's a FAIL at the point where it is PPC.  Unless of course Motorola has invented a 4 core 3.0+ GigaHertz chip that no one on Earth has ever seen.

Sorry guys.  I know this ruffles all sorts of feathers and pisses off the fanboys, but even the linux guys know that the x86 chip (whether intel, amd, or whatever) is where it's at.  Hell, even Apple knows.  Seems the only ones who don't are the religious faithful holding on desperately to 10 year decaying technology.

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I'm a fanboy so I'm really really upset with that statement Wayne!

Actually, I think even Hyperion would love to port OS4.x to X86 but they face two huge obstacles........time and money.
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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2010, 12:14:32 PM »
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Pull an Apple out of your hat and re-core AmigaOS around a Linux/BSD distro... EVEN IF YOU HAVE TO RUN IT ON CLOSED HARDWARE like Apple tries to do with their systems.

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2010, 02:52:13 PM »
Honestly, building a new OS and running the old one sandboxed for backwards compatibility, apple style, would have been the best option. They shouldn't have done os4, morphos, aros, none of it. not even OS 3.5 and 3.9. The amiga platform has been handled so badly, shuffled around by companies with no plan and no real way of doing it anyway, it's shocking. Best of luck to anubis-os, that's what should have happened in the 90s.
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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2010, 05:31:00 PM »
You wouldn't get very far with AppleOne either, but let's face it, Amiga Inc aren't in any position to mount a battle over the name "AmigaOne."  They probably won't be able to trademark it, but you can't start a new company based on a product using somebody else's trademark, so plain "Amiga" for the X1000 is out of the question.  I've also heard the name BOINC.  

Hyperion have a lcense to use the AmigaOS name...

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2010, 07:21:09 PM »
"AmigaOS around a Linux/BSD distro"

Yawn...yet another Linux distro. You all buy brand new Commodores* then, don't you?

* I'm talking about this standard x86 PC stuff that were/is sold from the owner of this name...
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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2010, 11:26:40 PM »
AROS Forever  :)
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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2010, 11:45:35 PM »
Im with Wayne on this one. Hyperion need to stop farting around with PPC, it was great back in the day but who cares now?
I want to play with OS4.x but Ill tell ya all now boys and girls, a lot of people find it hard to put £500+ quid into a box made of obsolete hardware that has no hope of being your main computer anytime soon. So bring in x86. Even if chipset support is limited, all of a sudden I can put a system together for peanuts, I can dual boot it and run Windows or Linux for stuff Amiga OS cant do (yet) and I can go online or into almost any PC retailer and buy it.
Where is the common sense with the people in charge of Amigas? :confused: Its always been like this, I wish it would change and they would get their game plan sorted. I guess all us little people who haunt forums like this can see what it could be but drop our heads when another false promise is heard.
I swear if I had millions of pounds Id take it all away from these muppets and show them how its done :lol: I know it wouldnt make moeny but hey, it'd be fun, and thats why we have (or had) an Amiga in the first place isnt it? :)
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Offline Tension

Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2010, 12:18:53 AM »
I dont understand what Hyperion are up to.

Obviously they have the product finished and working, otherwise they would be fools to advertise it to a community that's all too cynical due to the amount of vapour we've had over the years.   So why are they not releasing it til the summer?

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2010, 01:24:00 AM »
I personally wish AmigaOS would end up as an x86 VM, and thus never ever be tied to a physical motherboard.
 

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #23 on: January 25, 2010, 01:59:57 AM »
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I personally wish AmigaOS would end up as an x86 VM, and thus never ever be tied to a physical motherboard.


Not so sure about the VM bit!!

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #24 on: January 25, 2010, 02:23:29 AM »
Virtual is the new reality!  There's nothing different about a VM, heck if Amiga were X86 you could run virtual Macs or PCs in it!  It makes no difference who's the host and who's the guest....
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Offline x303

Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2010, 02:57:46 AM »
Maybe they mean with dual core, x86 & ppc ?! :laughing:


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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2010, 02:58:47 AM »
@All,

I'm not interested in an x86 OS. I don't wan't another power hog, I have one already. So please, no more x86. Power Miser computing is what I'm looking for, If I need some thing else I have a monster waiting.

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2010, 04:04:59 AM »
Some X86 chips consume more power than others, that's why there are different CPUs for laptops.  It depends on your needs, my MacPro consumes more power than my iPhone, which is too be expected.  But as a retro enthusiast I realise that old equipment really sucks the juice, my Amiga 3000 draws more power than my MacPro, so I guess it's just what you need where and what you are willing to pay for.

Me, I'm more concerned that I have enough CPU power to do what I need/want to do, a lacklustre processor that consumes low power frankly doesn't interest me.  I've got a farm of intel cpus that don't really care what OS I run on them, they're cheap and pretty efficient, any OS should just run on readily available equipment and not rely on pricey specialised chips.

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I'm not interested in an x86 OS. I don't wan't another power hog, I have one already. So please, no more x86. Power Miser computing is what I'm looking for, If I need some thing else I have a monster waiting.

Chris
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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2010, 06:50:30 AM »
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@All,

I'm not interested in an x86 OS. I don't wan't another power hog, I have one already. So please, no more x86. Power Miser computing is what I'm looking for, If I need some thing else I have a monster waiting.

Chris


They could do a machine running on ARM chips. They don't appear to be all that expensive
 

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Re: New amiga coming out 2010..is this a wind up?
« Reply #29 from previous page: January 25, 2010, 06:57:45 AM »
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@All,

I'm not interested in an x86 OS. I don't wan't another power hog, I have one already. So please, no more x86. Power Miser computing is what I'm looking for, If I need some thing else I have a monster waiting.

Chris


The Amiga never had anything to do with limited power consumption. Besides, PPC doesn't mean lower power anyway. x86 and PPC architecture has nothing to do with power consumption. You can find power hogs and power sippers in both camps.