Isnt there something we can learn from them?

[Gulliver]

The Good things about the Atari

The CT60/CT63 accelerator can achieve 105 mhz with 68060 cpu and can hold up to 512 MB of PC-100 (7ns ram).

They have the Hades Atari 68k clone

The Coldfire Atari project has a booting prototype and a reasonable goal.

They have a very cool open source browser that supports CSS called HighWire (works on 68k an does not require a GFX card!)

They already have a free opensource operating system clone, and an also opensource TOS ROM (kickstart).

At 23 GBP you can get an ethernet for an Atari


Isnt there something we can learn from them?

[goldfish]

Can it multi task?

[Tension]

Can it multi task?

Yay! It's like being back in 1991!

[Karlos]

Can it multi task?

I guess it'll run MultiTOS and probably an m68k Linux too.

I always liked the CT60 cards, seems a shame nobody made something like that for the A1200.

There doesn't seem to be a single 040/060 card for the amiga1200 in which the CPU is connected properly to memory (by which I mean in a fashion that the limit to memory IO is actually the CPU and not the bus).

[redrumloa]

IMO we could learn something from the Commodore 8bit market. Most users accepted the platform as a retro hobby 15+ years ago. Many Amiga users (and companies) still expect the Amiga to take over the world, which is far too unrealistic of a goal.

[Karlos]

IMO we could learn something from the Commodore 8bit market. Most users accepted the platform as a retro hobby 15+ years ago. Many Amiga users (and companies) still expect the Amiga to take over the world, which is far too unrealistic of a goal.

Surely nobody left is that naive?

For instance, Hyperion market OS4.x with the "Remember when computing was fun?" line. That doesn't tend to suggest they feel it's going to be a workplace contender to me.

Speaking of 8-bit, did any of you guys ever check out the BMOW (big mess of wires) project?

[playgeneration]

amiga is way too fractured, with 68k, aros, UAE, OS4, MorphOS...
if everyone had stuck to concentrating on 68k then we would have more of this cools stuff.

[huronking]

Yay! It's like being back in 1991!

But it has built-in midi

[Moto]

IMO we could learn something from the Commodore 8bit market. Most users accepted the platform as a retro hobby 15+ years ago. Many Amiga users (and companies) still expect the Amiga to take over the world, which is far too unrealistic of a goal.

I completely agree with you.  I've been back in the Amiga scene for about 5 months and I've gotta say that things are really weird around here.  On the one hand, you've got some really smart and friendly people who really make this community shine.   But on the other, I see a lot of hate filled, mean people who are so quick to slam others.  And as you said, it's a hobby.  People have hobbies to relax and have fun, right?  So why all the 'tudes around here?  We really could learn a lot from the Atari, Apple and 8bit Commodore users.  It would be nice if we had a unified front some day.

[Tension]

But it has built-in midi

Yea but it has joystick ports UNDERNEATH it!!  :lol:

Aaaaah, this brings me back  

[save2600]

OMG true story... just landed a complete original Atari 520ST system. All like new in the box. SF354 drive, SC1224 monitor and the system. Thought it would be cool to add to the museum. I gots to tell you... as far as any comparison to the Amiga 1000 - this thing is total and complete utter shite!  The TOS or GEM (or whatever it is called) is barely useable. I still haven't found a way to rename a folder you created. This system (albeit I'm sure an early one) is a total joke, even compared to AmigaOS 1.1. You'd have to be a total die-hard Atari fan to even think this thing stood a chance.

And that external disk drive that needs it's own brick power supply... Oh... and get this... it's only a single sided drive! 360kb of worthless technology right there. This thing is little more than a friggin' door stop or bookend to me.

The SC1224 monitor... with it's gigantic 12" screen... Find me an ST user that'll talk about the 1 inch border around it that the GEM "desktop" sits comfortably in... lol  For a rollout system, this thing is a total joke.

BTW: funny how even boxed (which all three "pieces" are) - this amounts to about $40 worth of ST stuff. :lol:

ST users are about the goofiest bunch of classic computing users you'll ever meet. I once had a Mega 2 system that everyone "wanted" AND advertised in an Atari specific forum, but nobody really had the cash for it. It had a VGA card, 16mhz Accelerator and a SCSI card all built in. Because the Atari people were soooooo loopy, I decided to strip the damn thing to its bare essentials and sold off the lot piece by piece. That bit of mental retardation brought in about 6x the amount I was originally asking to be done with the whole system. We all know stuff like this is worth more separately, but c'mon... that was just plain ridiculous.

[tone007]

I've got an identical boxed ST setup, it's all I can do to keep from leaving it out for the trash man.

[Tension]

I've got an identical boxed ST setup, it's all I can do to keep from leaving it out for the trash man.

The wedge makes for a good doorstep.

[save2600]

Not trying to be an ass (although its often unavoidable), but I do seriously use a 520 as a doorstop... and it works just fine! lol

[mdivancic]

ST users are about the goofiest bunch of classic computing users you'll ever meet. I once had a Mega 2 system that everyone "wanted" AND advertised in an Atari specific forum, but nobody really had the cash for it. It had a VGA card, 16mhz Accelerator and a SCSI card all built in. Because the Atari people were soooooo loopy, I decided to strip the damn thing to its bare essentials and sold off the lot piece by piece. That bit of mental retardation brought in about 6x the amount I was originally asking to be done with the whole system. We all know stuff like this is worth more separately, but c'mon... that was just plain ridiculous.

And this is different from us Amiga users how?