CDRW in original A4000D on original IDE port ???

[Effy]

I`m just wondering if I can mount a CDRW (52x32x52 for 40 euro) in my A4000D ?? There will be burn proof technology on that CDRW and I have read you can activate that in MakeCD by adding a line in the icon of MakeCD, something like 'MAKECD_BURN_PROOF' or so. Can this work or do I need a Fast ATA IDE controller Would the IDE ports on a Xsurf do the work too ?? I know they are not normal controllers so I am not sure ...
I sold my 68060 MK II turboboard last week for 180 euro and got an original 68040/25 board in return.
I also discovered that the four Simms on my motherboard were each 1 Mb only, so I replaced them with 4 Mb ones and now I have 16 Mb Ram. Pitty I can not replace the 2 Mb chip by a 8 Mb and move the jumper to use 8 Mb ...

[PPCRulez]

It should work. Although it'll probably eat a lot of CPU. The IDE-ports on the X-surf also eats a lot of cpu and is a little picky with certain standard CDROM's so I wouldn't recommend using that one.

[Cass]

Sure you can. Just have a look at the news section.

The x-surf ide is good for read-only CD drives.

You shouldn't use a CD-writer on these ports, because only one IO-request at a time can be issued by the X-Surf controller. That means a preemptive use of IDE devices - necessary for CD-writers - is impossible on the X-Surf. For this purpose we recommend a Buddha Flash controller.

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[Framiga]

Hi Effy

it is the CDRW itself that is "burnproof" not the software.

I've the same CPU, and with those moder burner, i never fail a CD. (max 5x)

You can't use the XSurf IDE port. (CDRW aren't supported).

If you can, buy a PowerFlyer FastATA, that supports PIO MODE 4.

Anyway i'm still using the A4000 internal IDE port with MakeCD as well. (in a PowerTower)

Ciao

[DanDude]

I have a 32x12x24 burner and I can't burn faster than 8x on my 4000T with 060/PPC accel card and native IDE bus.  12x made my system crawl so bad that the buffer underrun before the CD was finished.  Try using a faster IDE card.  I haven't tested any myself yet.

[lempkee]

ok, i know the a1200 aint the same, just slower .

but i have an ide cdrw, an aopen 52x , i use powerflyer and in pio5 mode (with the ata66 cables (special) ) and it works fine in most stuff (iso\s) upto 40x (if i write from scsi to ide , ide to ide is max 16x or so. (depends on iso type)

but here is the crucial bit , making isos on the fly on ide and burning ion the fly well then i cant burn faster than 8x.

this is on a1200 though, but still i can really speak highly of the powerflyer and its been a good investment but i rather use scsi if the price was better, sadly it aint

so i just got myself an ide2scsi adapter (so that i can use my ide devices on my scsi chain)..

just a tip!..

good luck.

[Effy]

Lemkee : I know scsi is better but I haven't got that anymore. A Z3 Fastlane would help me out a bit ...

FrAmiga : I also know that it't the CDRW that is burn proof and not just software, but the Burn Proof needs to be activated through the software ...

[Framiga]

Hi Effy

"FrAmiga : I also know that it't the CDRW that is burn proof and not just software, but the Burn Proof needs to be activated through the software ..."

If you already know that the "burnproof" is an internal option of the CDRW, why the hell it must be activated?

And . . .no, there isn't a Tooltype burnproof related in MakeCD.

Ciao

[Cyberus]

@Effy

Look on ebay for a Fastlane (do a 'worldwide' search, to see auctions in other European countries). I've just bought one, and having watched ebay for a few months, I reckon you could pick on up for about 30-40 Euro

[Cass]

@ Framiga

Actually, I think Effy was talking about this:



Just have a look at the SWAUG review, above.
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[Framiga]

@ Cass

try to run SnoopDos, and see if exists that Tooltype! not here.

I'm not 100% sure but could be useful, if the CDRW is an old model (a not burnproof one) or maybe an old version of MakeCD.

Anyway, those tooltype, doesn't exists on my system (MakeCD DAO 3.2d beta10)

Ciao

[Effy]

Framiga : yes, that is indeed the thing I wanted to say. I also have got a pc and in the burn program Nero you need to click on 'burn proof enable' or so. I think that otherwise the burn proof won't be activated in the CDRW.

Cyberus : shall try to get on then. I thought they would not go under 50 or 60 euro ...

[Effy]

I found more info on burn proof on http://ireland.amiga.org/index.html ...

Here is a hardware review of a Plextor with burn proof and it states clearly

'As regards software, I'm using the very comprehensive MakeCD DAO version, but an important point to note is to make sure you have the latest version 3.2d, as this supports BURN-Proof drives. To activate it though, you'll have to set a tooltype in the MakeCD icon. Enter the icon's information window and enter MAKECD_BURN_PROOF as a new tooltype. If you don't, and a buffer underrun occurs, the CD isn't ruined, but MakeCD interrupts writing anyway, as it thinks the CD is ruined. Set the tooltype, and set the writing speed to maximum (0), and away you go: faultless CDs every time!'

so I guess that burn proof is not activated when you install it for the first time ...