We NEED AmigaOS to go open source

[redrumloa]

Well, a compelling argument is that AROS isn't 150 dollars per bloody machine you want to put it on.

Last I checked MorphOS was over 200
USD per machine

[persia]

WooHoo, my dollar is now worth 93 US cents.  America is great bargain right now.  I know of people that regularly take shopping trips to LA and easily pay for the flight in the savings.

Is this an anomaly?  What's up with America?  For the first time in history our average wages are almost half again what America's are.  I used to dream about moving to America and earning some big cash, now I couldn't afford the pay cut....

[amigadave]

WooHoo, my dollar is now worth 93 US cents.  America is great bargain right now.  I know of people that regularly take shopping trips to LA and easily pay for the flight in the savings.

Is this an anomaly?  What's up with America?  For the first time in history our average wages are almost half again what America's are.  I used to dream about moving to America and earning some big cash, now I couldn't afford the pay cut....

It's not nice to rub our pain in our faces.  The lack of sanity from our leaders the last 16 years has not helped us in these crisis times.

[amigadave]

Last I checked MorphOS was over 200
USD per machine

Yes, but you can run it on cheap hardware that is orders of magnitude faster than the new hardware that is offered for the other comparable OS choice (AROS is not up to par yet and don't try to compare MorphOS to Windows, MacOSX, or Linux).

[tone007]

WooHoo, my dollar is now worth 93 US cents.

..and dropping!

0.92986

I think I've found a new hobby, sitting at XE.com and hitting refresh.  It's like a sports match, or a horse race or something.

[KThunder]

@persia and amiga dave
don't blame our leaders for our current crisis. Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama are not the cause.
The internet bubble, Enron, the real estate bubble and others cost our economy trillions of dollars. no country can absorb that without effect.
this is a democratic capitalistic nation, our leaders are legally allowed to do so much. if it were a communist nation we wouldn't have been so prosperous in the first place, but the leaders would have had more power.

ummm... yay aros one of the coolest bright spots in the current amiga picture. minimig and uae are other.

[recidivist]

MorphOS is overpriced for US but runs on fastest CURRENTLY AVAILABLE computers, AmigaOS 4.x is priced comparably to big OSes but needs updating  and runs only on expensive hardware,AROS has modest number of vocal supporters who apparently don't contribute enough funding to project to attract more talented programmers,......it looks to me if you want to run Amiga on PC ,then you just need to BUY Cloanto's Amiga Forever,which is very reasonably priced ,runs fast on PC hardware and even comes with classic games!

For what its worth,I have made small  monetary contributions to (($10,I think) to Aros,Amiga Sys even though i don't use them,and have purchased  several AF so can run on laptop and desktop legally.And it makes me feel supportive of  overall Amiga scene.
I worry some want open or whatever only  for free,but someone always has to expend effort and deserves rewards.

[redrumloa]

Yes, but you can run it on cheap hardware that is orders of magnitude faster than the new hardware that is offered for the other comparable OS choice (AROS is not up to par yet and don't try to compare MorphOS to Windows, MacOSX, or Linux).

If it came on physical media I would feel much better. The current licensing scheme makes me fearful about future proof functionality.

[Manu]

Serious question though, would AROS run on Sun's VirtualBox virtual machine?

Yes
http://ve.icarosdesktop.org/

.

[billt]

Yes
http://ve.icarosdesktop.org/

.

I might try to find some time to have a look then. I finally got Linux running well in Vbox last night. No more need for dual-booting!

[soulboy]

@persia and amiga dave
don't blame our leaders for our current crisis. Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama are not the cause.
The internet bubble, Enron, the real estate bubble and others cost our economy trillions of dollars. no country can absorb that without effect.
this is a democratic capitalistic nation, our leaders are legally allowed to do so much. if it were a communist nation we wouldn't have been so prosperous in the first place, but the leaders would have had more power.

ummm... yay aros one of the coolest bright spots in the current amiga picture. minimig and uae are other.

Sorry OT but...
It was the government that deregulated the financial markets which allowed the financial crash. Yes deregulation (less government) was a big reason why the banks were allowed to do what they did. And since the crash what have the government done to prevent it happening again? NOOOOTHING. It can and will happen again and unfortunately while politicians campaigns are paid for by big business it ain't gonna change. I would say  its indistinguishable from corruption.

[runequester]

I worry some want open or whatever only for free,but someone always has to expend effort and deserves rewards.

Well, AROS has its bounty system as monetary reward and compensation.
 
However, I am far more concerned with "free as in freedom". Not "free as in beer".

[recidivist]

Agree!
United States Constitution was meant to set up a REPUBLIC,not a democracy.

Democracy had already been tried and found wanting,communism hadn't worked,benevolent kings died and were succeeded by lazy greedy heirs;only republics with certain  basic  guarenteed freedoms AND responsibilities seem to promote happiness and freedom for largest percentage of the population.

Re: AROS,again,apparently it isn't rewarding enough to get  that OS polished and updated and in the hands or computers of significant number of users.

No doubt vast majority of  former Commodore Amiga users think of Amiga only as the computer they had before they grew up.

[persia]

Well the bounty system is skewed in favour of those with money.  Anyone who can throw a thousand euros on an underpowered embedded board can certain afford to donate more to bounties.

Also sharing goes only one way, AROS puts stuff in the public domain whilst the others don't, so everyone benefits from AROS development but only the elites benefit from OS 4.1 development....

MorphOS is overpriced for US but runs on fastest CURRENTLY AVAILABLE computers, AmigaOS 4.x is priced comparably to big OSes but needs updating  and runs only on expensive hardware,AROS has modest number of vocal supporters who apparently don't contribute enough funding to project to attract more talented programmers,......it looks to me if you want to run Amiga on PC ,then you just need to BUY Cloanto's Amiga Forever,which is very reasonably priced ,runs fast on PC hardware and even comes with classic games!

For what its worth,I have made small  monetary contributions to (($10,I think) to Aros,Amiga Sys even though i don't use them,and have purchased  several AF so can run on laptop and desktop legally.And it makes me feel supportive of  overall Amiga scene.
I worry some want open or whatever only  for free,but someone always has to expend effort and deserves rewards.

[Manu]

Re: AROS,again,apparently it isn't rewarding enough to get  that OS polished and updated and in the hands or computers of significant number of users.

IMHO AROS is doing just fine with the resources it has. Sure it's taken a long time to get this far but I don't see OS4 or MOS rule the world either, so there's plenty of time. Most important is that people working on it is having fun while they're doing it. It's not that we're up against competition or something. We have our 3 top players in computerworld (Win,Mac,Lin)  nothing's gonna change that.

[Manu]

Also sharing goes only one way, AROS puts stuff in the public domain whilst the others don't, so everyone benefits from AROS development but only the elites benefit from OS 4.1 development....

I've  thought that thought too. But I've been afraid to tell it out loud.