We NEED AmigaOS to go open source

[Karlos]

Imagine how many posts KennyR would have if he was still here?

I dare say we'd be looking at an ALTER TABLE to change a few id's to BIGINT as a precaution

Seriously, it was years after his last post that anybody got past him. Despite not having posted for around five years, his average is still 2.83 per day :lol:

[cv643d]

It makes your head spin around wondering what happened to the good old Amiga community but I have read comments from die-hard OS4.1 fanatics that AROS is a threat to the "real Amiga" (AmigaOS4.x). They mean AROS just splits up the community, the community should be running AmigaOS4.x because that is the true AmigaOS of the Amiga world, ie, AmigaOS4.x is the real Amiga. Such OS as AROS and MorphOS do more damage to the Amiga world than good according to some opinions I have witnessed on Amiga message boards.

I wonder, so what if there is MorphOS that can run Amiga applications, why is that bad?
Why is AROS bad? if it all goes to hell, at least they will have AROS to use. If the community backing up 4.1 was backing up AROS we would all be happy running our AmigaOSx86 on quad cores with integrated Paralells like wine apps running Crysis on our desktops.

And even if we would not do that, we would know that we have the hardware and it is only a software issue.

[persia]

Neither AROS, Morphos nor Hyperion have the legal right to call their computers "Amiga."

OS4.1 is, in the end a dead end path, over priced, under powered computers with gimicky features.  AROS, for all it's faults, is the way forward....

[billt]

What the Amiga community needs is for the Amiga OS to go open source like Linux.  I believe that there are enough people who like the OS enough that they would start to redevelop and fix it to use on modern hardware.  Just MHO.

Yep. We all quit using MOS and OS4 and switched to AROS instead, didn't we...

[kolla]

That's not going to work as an opensource project. That is going to take way too much time for which you won't find enough spare time programmers.

Linux got only this far because it is sponsored on a yearly basis by millions of Dollars. Either because people are employed at companies to work on Linux related stuff or via other constructions.

Complete operating systems and programs running on it can not be created by merely open sourcing it. You still need a shit load of cash to have full time programmers working on it. That only works for Linux and nothing else.

First of all, I didnt say anything about Open Source in regards to what Collas and Gateway were doing back in the days, and MorphOS is also not Open Source. I was just saying that IT'S TOO LATE for AmigaOS type OSes, closed source or open source is irrelevant.

Secondly, you're wrong that creating new OS is so unthinkable that only Linux manages. There are lots and lots of opensource OSes around, many of them (most) far more complete and capable than AROS, and an OS being open source does not exclude commercial participation, like how you said for Linux. And Linux is _not_ the only OS around that benefits from both commercial and volunteering developers, the same can be said for the BSDs and Solaris, and even opensource elements in OSX and Windows.

Thirdly, the only thing I care about making opensource - or rather, to be put in public domain with sources and all for anyone to hack - is classic m68k AmigaOS, not because I expect lots of developers to jump on it, but because of personal interest, being able to make small improvements without having to disassemble and guestimate what's going on, and because we could finally get rid of all the hypocrisy and fuzz regarding "piracy" of kickstarts and old OS disks.

[NovaCoder]

Actually I think it might happen one day, but only > OS 3.1.

[arnljot]

@karlos, redrumloa & bloodline

Get a grip :-D

You can compare sizes in the locker room :lol:

[Tension]

Neither AROS, Morphos nor Hyperion have the legal right to call their computers "Amiga."

Yea.  And vice versa.

I wonder what Amiga Inc. would call their Operating System if they ever did release another one (which they won't).

They can't use AmigaOS, but since they still own the Amiga trademark, I suppose they could call it Amiga X5 or something like that.

Actually, I suppose they could just call it Workbench 5.

Hmmm.....

[persia]

Amiga Inc could create a PC clone and call it an Amiga.  Then we could run AROS on it.....

Yea.  And vice versa.

I wonder what Amiga Inc. would call their Operating System if they ever did release another one (which they won't).

They can't use AmigaOS, but since they still own the Amiga trademark, I suppose they could call it Amiga X5 or something like that.

Actually, I suppose they could just call it Workbench 5.

Hmmm.....

[Tension]

Amiga Inc could create a PC clone and call it an Amiga.  Then we could run AROS on it.....

LOL excellent.  

That would actually work.

[runequester]

Yep. We all quit using MOS and OS4 and switched to AROS instead, didn't we...

Well, a compelling argument is that AROS isn't 150 dollars per bloody machine you want to put it on.

[bloodline]

Well, a compelling argument is that AROS isn't 150 dollars per bloody machine you want to put it on.

But if you want it from me, it will cost a beer!

[kolla]

Actually I think it might happen one day, but only > OS 3.1.

OS 3.5 and 3.9 are mostly "addons" to 3.1 anyways, alot of the binaries in 3.9 are identical to those in 3.1. OS3.5 CD came with OS3.1 on it, and 3.9 CD has both 3.5 and 3.9 on it. And the 3.1 kickstart doesnt contain much magic either.

[unusedunused]

OS 3.5 and 3.9 are mostly "addons" to 3.1 anyways, alot of the binaries in 3.9 are identical to those in 3.1. OS3.5 CD came with OS3.1 on it, and 3.9 CD has both 3.5 and 3.9 on it. And the 3.1 kickstart doesnt contain much magic either.

yes and btw in general AFA is simular as OS3.5 or OS3.9.All use Kickrom and use for new functions new code that replace the kickrom Code.diffrence is only that OS3.5 and OS3.9 can modify old AOS code to replace kickrom functions and AFA use because AOS is not opensource AROS code and own written code to do new things

[billt]

Well, a compelling argument is that AROS isn't 150 dollars per bloody machine you want to put it on.

Indeed, I suppose that's a big part of why we've all already bailed on the others and switched to AROS isntead...

Serious question though, would AROS run on Sun's VirtualBox virtual machine?

[redrumloa]

Well, a compelling argument is that AROS isn't 150 dollars per bloody machine you want to put it on.

Last I checked MorphOS was over 200
USD per machine