How will Hyperion continue the momentum?

[EDanaII]

Ehhh... that scenario is only partially imaginary. I'm typing from the real parts of that setup right now, and I currently run Win 7, Mackintosh, AROS, Linux and even Amiga Forever on Linux. That's all too real. And I'd love to run AmigaOS 4.1 on it too, but it's Hyperion's failure to glean reality that prevents me from that.

Two cents...

Ed.

[Hell Labs]

Ehhh... that scenario is only partially imaginary. I'm typing from the real parts of that setup right now, and I currently run Win 7, Mackintosh, AROS, Linux and even Amiga Forever on Linux. That's all too real. And I'd love to run AmigaOS 4.1 on it too, but it's Hyperion's failure to glean reality that prevents me from that.

Two cents...

Ed.

Somebody buy this man a beer.

[dammy]

In the end it's all software running on hardware, I don't care what the underlying hardware is, as long as it works and is reasonably priced...

The Amiga system was an Amiga system, nothing quiet else out there between the hardware and software union.  It's a snapshot back in history, there will not be anything like it again, nor should there be.  

Today there should be a next generation Amiga OS we could be using.  Of the three Amiga-like OS, none of them are next generation.  At best there is one maybe 1990s OS, and the rest are 1980s OS trying to live in the modern world and all three are failing at it while the Dev pool shrinks a little bit more.

[Karlos]

Intel atom board for £67
PPC G3 500mhz £31.15
DDR2 2GB £51.69 (ddr2 is going up in price, it's OLD)
Mini atx case £30
500GB SATA £40
dvdrw pata £25
Keyboard and mouse £8
AmigaOS 4.1 £108.30
Total price: £361.14 Pound Sterling.

A weak ppc (but not by much), I know, but there are faster ones out there and at any rate, they can MAKE a ppc card if they want to for less than an entire motherboard. That's MUCH cheaper than a SAM setup from amigakit, with twice the ram too. I've even totaled in a keyboard and mouse like amigakit do. Hell, a SAM motherboard ALONE costs more than this! Go Go Gadget Hyperion.

The performance will be less than stellar if the PPC only has PCI speed access into the rest of the system, especially to the RAM.

[zylesea]

New Vs Second hand, and the solution I quoted has two processors available. Also the ram and HDD on that sucks nuts out of the box.

500 MHz vs. 1250MHz + Altivec.

But apart from this vs. that I think that the idea of a ppc on a pc expansion card is not a bad one (and not really new). Someting like a Siamese system reloaded could be pretty nice.

[Boudicca]

I can't undertand anything you just said.

Language is a gift, press the try harder button !

[fishy_fiz]

Generally speaking to keep momentum you have to have it 1st. All I saw was an interesting marketting gimmick (which I admit did have me intrigued), followed by an announcement of hardware (that isnt available yet and has no released date or price(from public perspective)) that received the usual bashing anywhere outside the amiga world, and even from inside it. Semi interesting hardware to those that are interested in things other than raw speed, but hardly momentum building. Having said this though I do wish all the luck to those with an interest in it, for me however it was interesting for about a day until reality set back in.

[persia]

Reality is setting in, a likely to be expensive board, with a main processor that is in short supply and the whole system not likely to make a netbook jealous.  There's no momentum here to continue.  There's too much of a time gap between the announcement and delivery.

[Hell Labs]

Language is a gift, press the try harder button !

I speak the language pretty damn well, what you typed was gibberish.

[Boudicca]

I speak the language pretty damn well, what you typed was gibberish.

Then, I'll leave the intelligent conversation to others, who are far less superior.

[kolla]

I wonder what the current NATAMI progress is. Somebody gets a PPC card working with at and we'll be in business.

Why? AmigaOS 4.x doesnt need anything that NATAMI offers, and why would NATAMI waste time on fitting PPC when they just aim for OS3.x?

I think you totally missed what NATAMI is about.

[Karlos]

Why? AmigaOS 4.x doesnt need anything that NATAMI offers, and why would NATAMI waste time on fitting PPC when they just aim for OS3.x?

I think you totally missed what NATAMI is about.

It might be fun to support WarpOS at least. I don't know what sort of connectivity the machine is supposed to have but if it has PCI then I suppose one of those Sonnet cards could be used if an appropriate WarpOS module could be implemented for it.

In truth, however, I think the project is suffering from enough feature creep as it is.

[Piru]

It might be fun to support WarpOS at least. I don't know what sort of connectivity the machine is supposed to have but if it has PCI then I suppose one of those Sonnet cards could be used if an appropriate WarpOS module could be implemented for it.

:roflmao:

[Hell Labs]

It might be fun to support WarpOS at least. I don't know what sort of connectivity the machine is supposed to have but if it has PCI then I suppose one of those Sonnet cards could be used if an appropriate WarpOS module could be implemented for it.

In truth, however, I think the project is suffering from enough feature creep as it is.

From what I've seen they are brushing up after a change of SRAM to DDR2 and then focusing on getting the damn thing actually produced, Leaving the 68050 softcore as an update/brick for later. There has also been pleasant sounding noises about doing exactly that with a sonnet card. Though given that the design is REALLY compatible with the 1200 and 4000 (can use either kickstart) it would probably just be a couple of days hacking to get OS 4.0 to run on it once a sonnet card is supported for warpOS or whatever. I'm tired, and I've probably screwed up that explanation somehow.

[NovaCoder]

Reality is setting in, a likely to be expensive board, with a main processor that is in short supply and the whole system not likely to make a netbook jealous.  There's no momentum here to continue.  There's too much of a time gap between the announcement and delivery.

I'm also surprised that they announced this board before it was ready to ship, especially considering what it will do to sales of the SAM.

To launch a new hw platform with a intergrated, stable and supported version of OS 4.x will cost a lot of $$$, how much have Hyperion got to spend on this puppy I wonder?

Hopefully some lesson have been learned by the powers-that-be over the AmigaOne launch and marketing disaster.

[Piru]

There has also been pleasant sounding noises about doing exactly that with a sonnet card. Though given that the design is REALLY compatible with the 1200 and 4000 (can use either kickstart) it would probably just be a couple of days hacking to get OS 4.0 to run on it once a sonnet card is supported for warpOS

You guys are really cracking me up... :laughing: