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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #374 from previous page: July 01, 2011, 10:30:48 PM »
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hehe - no it's not - specially if the shelf stuff outperforms the PPC bleeps by a major factor :)

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #375 on: July 01, 2011, 10:40:31 PM »
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been looking at this *old* technology laptop
  http://www.ebuyer.com/product/258876

should run WinUEA very nicely indeed...

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I've got my eye on this little beauty.....

 http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_Ethos_8943G_1005702.html

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #376 on: July 01, 2011, 10:43:16 PM »
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I've got my eye on this little beauty.....

 http://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/Acer_Aspire_Ethos_8943G_1005702.html

:lust:

Ouch! You definitely must have more disposable income then me, Nicholas.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #377 on: July 01, 2011, 11:17:07 PM »
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For people focused on running legacy software , you have a strong argument.
Scary when I find myself siding with Dammy.


MorphOS for QEMU anyone? :)
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #378 on: July 01, 2011, 11:19:01 PM »
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Ouch! You definitely must have more disposable income then me, Nicholas.


Nah, just hoping the insurance firm payout for my broken Macbook Pro. :)
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #379 on: July 02, 2011, 02:26:27 AM »
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Why not?  If the hardware runs an Amiga-like OS, it should be fair game to compare it with other hardware that runs Amiga-like OS as well.  It's completely fair to compare it with x86 or used Macs as in the case for MOS.  Once COS 2.x running on new Commodore Amigas are out in the wild, it's going to have to be able to compare with hardware AROS is running on, MOS is running on, and what OS4 is running on.  That is a lot of choices for the end user to decide on, which is a wonderful thing compared what we had 12 years ago.


Yeah, cause AROS, MorhphOS, and Amiga OS 4.1 are very similar to a Linux-like Ubuntu style OS. :rolleyes:
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #380 on: July 02, 2011, 03:24:16 AM »
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Yeah, cause AROS, MorhphOS, and Amiga OS 4.1 are very similar to a Linux-like Ubuntu style OS. :rolleyes:
Of course they aren't, but that's not the point. AROS will run on modern x86 hardware with no trouble, and will run hosted on PPC hardware, and MOS will run natively on a used PPC Mac. Thus, unless you're really devoted to OS4, either a PPC Mac or an x86 PC is a cheaper (and likely equally or more powerful) solution for NG Amiga-like OS usage.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #381 on: July 02, 2011, 03:28:20 AM »
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Why not?  If the hardware runs an Amiga-like OS, it should be fair game to compare it with other hardware that runs Amiga-like OS as well.  It's completely fair to compare it with x86 or used Macs as in the case for MOS.  Once COS 2.x running on new Commodore Amigas are out in the wild, it's going to have to be able to compare with hardware AROS is running on, MOS is running on, and what OS4 is running on.  That is a lot of choices for the end user to decide on, which is a wonderful thing compared what we had 12 years ago.


Knock it off Spammy. We don't want your C-USA crap in regular threads.......
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #382 on: July 02, 2011, 04:22:05 AM »
I must admit to being completely underwhelmed byt the power consumption and temperature figures. This is a cpu that is often touted as being impressively conservative in these parameters and yet its outclassed by even x86 cpus that are magnitudes of times faster. Even a Llano (4x k10.5 Stars cores (ie. tweaked old technology that has a reputation for being inefficient in power/thermal properties) + intergrated radeon 6530/6550 with 320/400 stream processors + memory controller + pci express controller, etc.) downclocked to the same sort of frequencies would be quite competitive, despite not just being much faster, but being a chip much, much more complex (1.48 billion transistors).
Near as I can tell this is where I write something under the guise of being innocuous, but really its a pot shot at another persons/peoples choice of Amiga based systems. Unfortunately only I cant see how transparent and petty it makes me look.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #383 on: July 02, 2011, 02:24:28 PM »
PA6T is a dated chip, an old generation, Apple has gone on to A4 & A5 chips based on ARM rather than PowerPC.  They're dropping support for it next year.  It had military (UK, US) application, otherwise Apple would have dropped support a couple years ago.  If you think Apple is going to extend it's support then you don't know Apple's history.  Apple recently abandoned core duo, the first intel generation of Macs, that goes all the way back to 2006/7....
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #384 on: July 02, 2011, 04:04:00 PM »
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MorphOS for QEMU anyone? :)

There was a time that I was opting for that option but not anymore. Emulation is emulation, not a big fan of it. That's why I don't use WinUAE or Aros via VirtualBox. There is no heart in that ;)
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #385 on: July 02, 2011, 04:52:55 PM »
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Why not?  If the hardware runs an Amiga-like OS, it should be fair game to compare it with other hardware that runs Amiga-like OS as well.  It's completely fair to compare it with x86 or used Macs as in the case for MOS.  Once COS 2.x running on new Commodore Amigas are out in the wild, it's going to have to be able to compare with hardware AROS is running on, MOS is running on, and what OS4 is running on.  That is a lot of choices for the end user to decide on, which is a wonderful thing compared what we had 12 years ago.


I take the point about about comparing AROS/AOS4/MorphOS on different hardware because      when it comes down to it, you are talking about the actual computing experience and hardware  plays a part the same as the OS and also the available software does.

But they are all Amiga operating systems.
At this moment in time, there is no justifcation to say COS2 will have to be able to compare with  the above as there is no evidence to suggest it will be an Amiga OS.

COS1 on the CUSA C64 is Linux and will have to compare to other LInux variants on their
hardware

COS2 for the CUSA Amiga line might just be another Linux variant for all you know.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #386 on: July 02, 2011, 06:01:01 PM »
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Psh, probably already outclassed.  Dual core NVidia Tegra phones with software that supports it, and not tethered to a desk!


I agree, My Motorola Atrix would more than likely out perform the x1000, and has the software support to do so. Its unlikely the X1000 will offer any revolutionary software as they are generally just playing catchup with modern PC's using antiquated hardware.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #387 on: July 02, 2011, 06:05:53 PM »
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I take the point about about comparing AROS/AOS4/MorphOS on different hardware because      when it comes down to it, you are talking about the actual computing experience and hardware  plays a part the same as the OS and also the available software does.


Yup, it's about the user's experience and what they will pay for it.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #388 on: July 02, 2011, 07:07:31 PM »
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COS2 for the CUSA Amiga line might just be another Linux variant for all you know.


Of course it will be.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #389 on: July 02, 2011, 07:13:06 PM »
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Of course it will be.



which takes us back to this

"BTW... since Leo brought this up on Commodore-amiga.org, I can say it here I guess"

Mark Shuttleworth being the obvious reference here.

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