Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?

[Kesa]

Interesting. I thought Dummy was a fake account of Dammy.

I also thought that the person who threatened A.org a while back was Doommaster. If it wasn't Doomy then who was it? :confused:

[WolfToTheMoon]

It seems Varisys has stopped offering all PA-6T related products on their webpage(somebody on awn noticed).

[zylesea]

It seems Varisys has stopped offering all PA-6T related products on their webpage(somebody on awn noticed).

Actrually it was Krashan who spotted that and reported at morphzone: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3

Even more interesting from that same thread is that Varisys doesn't source PA6T chips, Aeon must get them from another source.
Well, PA6T - the wrong horse to have bidded on? I've said so and I say so now. The chip was interesting fom its specs, but it is dead like a dodo.

[vidarh]

Well, PA6T - the wrong horse to have bidded on? I've said so and I say so now. The chip was interesting fom its specs, but it is dead like a dodo.

It being "dead like a dodo" is irrelevant as long as they have a sufficient supply, and given the size of the Amiga market that doesn't take much.

The reason it's irrelevant is that most of the PPC chips that are potential candidates for AmigaOne hardware in one form another are SOC's that are not socket compatible from version to version.

In other words, you're faced with redesigning the board for the next generation anyway, in which case it matters a whole lot less if you need to switch to a CPU from another source.

[jorkany]

Actrually it was Krashan who spotted that and reported at morphzone: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3

Even more interesting from that same thread is that Varisys doesn't source PA6T chips, Aeon must get them from another source.
Well, PA6T - the wrong horse to have bidded on? I've said so and I say so now. The chip was interesting fom its specs, but it is dead like a dodo.

A-eon stated that they sourced them elsewhere with this announcement from the News section of their website. Due to the moronic design of that site it's not possible to directly link to news items, but if you extend the menu shaft by tapping on the menu head, and then touch the News ball, and select the article 22 Dec. 2010, you'll find this:

"Fortunately Varisys, our AmigaOne X1000 hardware partner, had a long-standing relationship with PA Semi and we were able to secure a supply of PA6T CPUs for the AmigaOne X1000 project"

What A-eon doesn't reveal is what source PA Semi directed them to. I presume it was a warehouse of new old stock, but who knows?

In other words, you're faced with redesigning the board for the next generation anyway, in which case it matters a whole lot less if you need to switch to a CPU from another source.

I thought that was the main arguments for sticking with PPC - because the x86 hardware changed too much over time?

Oh well.

[fishy_fiz]

To me that just suggests it's not a great choice (nor are the cpus in sam boards). With the limited development of amiga hardware it makes more sense to find hardware that can be upgraded by replacing the cpu when a person is inclined. I guess the problem with this though is that pretty much all new ppc chips are SoC's. I guess also that an upgradable path may not suit amiga hardware developers as it removes potential sales of future systems if people can get around replacing entire systems. Pretty rough position for all involved.

[wawrzon]

In other words, you're faced with redesigning the board for the next generation anyway, in which case it matters a whole lot less if you need to switch to a CPU from another source.

which means this soap will be going forever. not much of issue excep keeping quite a part of community passive in waiting loop. but then they would probably never contribute much to anything else.

[TheBilgeRat]

Actrually it was Krashan who spotted that and reported at morphzone: http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7183&forum=3

Even more interesting from that same thread is that Varisys doesn't source PA6T chips, Aeon must get them from another source.
Well, PA6T - the wrong horse to have bidded on? I've said so and I say so now. The chip was interesting fom its specs, but it is dead like a dodo.

Or perhaps they just no longer have any for sale cos Aeon bought them all.

[persia]

They were in Steve Job's office, propping up an iPad 3...

A-eon stated that they sourced them elsewhere with this announcement from the News section of their website. Due to the moronic design of that site it's not possible to directly link to news items, but if you extend the menu shaft by tapping on the menu head, and then touch the News ball, and select the article 22 Dec. 2010, you'll find this:

"Fortunately Varisys, our AmigaOne X1000 hardware partner, had a long-standing relationship with PA Semi and we were able to secure a supply of PA6T CPUs for the AmigaOne X1000 project"

What A-eon doesn't reveal is what source PA Semi directed them to. I presume it was a warehouse of new old stock, but who knows?



I thought that was the main arguments for sticking with PPC - because the x86 hardware changed too much over time?

Oh well.

[jorkany]

So any beta testers get their board yet?

[Iggy]

So any beta testers get their board yet?

Somehow I doubt it.

As to the CPUs, A-eon and Varisys secured them when PA Semi put out a request for final orders.
Its no great mystery. PA Semi was shutting down production and didn't want new customers (that might depend on an item that was eol).

[digitex]

Here's your 'new beginning" !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCnZc_i63c

[Franko]

Hi Barry old chap...

Sorry but I've just reported your pathetic little SPAM post to the site, now please bugger off...

PS: That's not a new beginning that is an epic fail and overpriced overhyped piece of junk ...

[koaftder]

Here's your 'new beginning" !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcCnZc_i63c

Awesome! I love seeing manufacturing videos. Looked scary lifting that mold into the machine. Was there anything on the lift to keep it from accidentally sliding off when it was being moved into place?

[Franko]

@ Barry Boy

Noticed your still too chicken to allow anyone to post a comment on your naff YouTube videos, grow a set of balls man or crawl back under your rock...

[Motormouth]

Would you rather have the AmigaOne X1000 or a Natami?
I guess the real question is do you want AmigaOS4.1
or 680x0 compatibility?

If Amigas are just hobby machines I would prefer being able to run a high-end AmigaOs 3.1
computer than AmigaOS4.1 that feels just a little bit too much like Linux.