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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #209 on: July 29, 2010, 07:31:25 PM »
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I Have 2000, I do not want to spend the money on Ultimate to make use of the dual processors. 2000 works great for what I use this computer for.

I forgot about that one. Seems fairly stupid to support multi-core processors and not systems with multiple processors. what was Microsoft thinking?

Doesn't XP allow you to use two processors?
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #210 on: July 29, 2010, 09:50:26 PM »
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There may be some cross over between the two, but I can't see a phone as a substitute for a computer.

Checking email? Seems valid enough. At least if you can avoid having to access a web page.

Isn't text messaging supposed to be the way to go with phones? I'll leave that to people that want to and can master those little keys (I'd rather talk directly or leave a voice message that will probably be ignored).

Using the internet? Maybe you want to do this, but with their tiny screens and limited resolution I'd rather avoid the eye strain.

Apps? Lots of them, plenty of poor ones (along with more than a few games I've got no interest in), but I'm not doing my word processing on a phone (not if I can avoid it).

Is everything with a microprocessor a computer? If not, is everything with a microprocessor that can do some of the things a computer can do a computer? What the hell is the iPad? And finally, do I want all these devices (cause the phone isn't going to make a adequate replacement for all them yet)?
Far too many question, You keep thinking of your phone as a computer. I'll keep wondering when somebody's going to tell me their wristwatch is a computer.

ok 800X 480 res not billiant.  But my phone will connect to telly.  wll connect to a bluetooth keyboard, though even has one.  Can connect wii controller, and ps3 controllers.  Runs linux, had an amiga emulator, plus snes, megadrive etc.  had 600mhz arm proc whoch can do 1ghz.  cant be botherd to go on beacuse whislt i wold never use my phone as a replacement for desktop/laptop  its a computer under any defination you can think of.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #211 on: July 29, 2010, 10:04:26 PM »
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ok 800X 480 res not billiant.  But my phone will connect to telly.  wll connect to a bluetooth keyboard, though even has one.  Can connect wii controller, and ps3 controllers.  Runs linux, had an amiga emulator, plus snes, megadrive etc.  had 600mhz arm proc whoch can do 1ghz.  cant be botherd to go on beacuse whislt i wold never use my phone as a replacement for desktop/laptop  its a computer under any defination you can think of.

With those specifications I will definitely concede to you that is indeed a computer.
What is fairly impressive is the resolution you're quoting, the idea of connecting a bluetooth keyboard, and using an external display.
You've almost made me want one.

Frighteningly close to the productivity of a small PPC nettop. Leave it to Nokia to come up with something more attractive than a Blackberry or iPhone.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #212 on: July 29, 2010, 10:18:03 PM »
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How fast Windows7 runs (especially when compared to WinXP) is relative to the hardware you're running it on.
Even Vista is not really any slower with decent hardware.
The only reason I keep an XP based system around is to run a few packages that won't run under Vista or Win7.
I have no problem with your perception of WinXP being much faster than Win7, but on higher end equipment that hasn't been my experience .

Windows XP might run faster than Windows 7 on an older machine but on a current model I would really don't there is much of a difference. I have a new ASUS laptop that boots Windows 7 in about 15 - 20 seconds. My XP system at works takes twice as long.
 
As for compatibility. Windows 7 has a compatibility mode that is essentially a virtual PC that runs Windows XP. It works great... No need to keep XP around anymore unless it is for older games and even then it isn't always necessary.
 
As for linux as a desktop OS. Sure it is free, as long as your time is worth absolutely nothing. I have better things to do than to scour forums and read tech articles to get a computer to do anything.

 
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #213 on: July 29, 2010, 10:24:51 PM »
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As for linux as a desktop OS. Sure it is free, as long as your time is worth absolutely nothing. I have better things to do than to scour forums and read tech articles to get a computer to do anything.

I'm not quite sure why this idea persists these days. It was true years ago and it may still be the case if you choose a fairly niche distro, but the big ones like Ubuntu and Fedora are very easy to set up.

Frankly, I've had more problems tweaking AmigaOS to my personal taste over the years than I have linux and I always thought the former was a doddle.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #214 on: July 29, 2010, 10:28:32 PM »
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As for linux as a desktop OS. Sure it is free, as long as your time is worth absolutely nothing. I have better things to do than to scour forums and read tech articles to get a computer to do anything.

:roflmao:Bingo! And God save you if something crashes. In my earlier days with Windows, I often found myself reinstalling the OS, but nowadays a few of the installations I have have moved from one platform to another.
Linux on the other hand still has me frequently doing total re-installs.

And I'll agree with you that I, again, see virtually no speed difference between XP and 7 (unless you're running dated hardware).
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #215 on: July 29, 2010, 10:56:53 PM »
I think its time I called the RSPP (Royal Society for the Protection of Penguins), because some of you guys must really be abusing Linux, I have 2 machines here running that haven't been reinstalled for 2-3 years they just keep on going. I've upgraded the versions and all my application and data are available immediately after upgrade. I had to did into the forums to sort out the wifi on my netbook in earlier (8.odd) version but that work straight away now. My oldest install (OpenSuse 9) is probably over 6 years since it last had a boot CD near it.  

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Everything with a programmable processor (not necessary Micro) must be a computer, since when did available IO dictate whether a machine is a computer or not? A phone or a watch or even a central heating timer if it contains a programmable processor is a computer. Otherwise the server under my desk which only has a power lead and a network connection could not be called a computer as I can't use it without access to another device that does the IO.

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #216 on: July 29, 2010, 11:14:24 PM »
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I think its time I called the RSPP (Royal Society for the Protection of Penguins), because some of you guys must really be abusing Linux, I have 2 machines here running that haven't been reinstalled for 2-3 years they just keep on going. I've upgraded the versions and all my application and data are available immediately after upgrade. I had to did into the forums to sort out the wifi on my netbook in earlier (8.odd) version but that work straight away now. My oldest install (OpenSuse 9) is probably over 6 years since it last had a boot CD near it.  

@Iggy
Everything with a programmable processor (not necessary Micro) must be a computer, since when did available IO dictate whether a machine is a computer or not? A phone or a watch or even a central heating timer if it contains a programmable processor is a computer. Otherwise the server under my desk which only has a power lead and a network connection could not be called a computer as I can't use it without access to another device that does the IO.

Gaz

In the broadest sense you're correct, but I'm not accessing the internet or using other apps on my thermostat. I'd love to close that whole argument by redefining what I meant from computer to personal computer (which, oddly enough, wouldn't include your server unless you're the only one using it).

And I'm glad you've had such a good experience using Linux. I assume that once you find a distro you like, that the experience you've had is not uncommon. Over the last several years I've seen enough improvement in Linux that I may dedicate at least a hard drive on one system to it.

While I am a MorphOS user, I'd readily admit that Linux is perhaps the only really large open OS/kernel in existence and its success   is impressive.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #217 on: January 04, 2011, 06:06:48 PM »
From the A-eon site:
http://a-eon.com/news.html
"A-EON Technology and its partners Varisys, AmigaKit and Hyperion Entertainment would like to wish the whole Amiga community a happy, prosperous and peaceful New Year. 2011 promises to be an exciting year. AmigaOne X1000 Beta Testers should take delivery of their revision 2 Nemo motherboards during the first quarter of 2011 and all being well, commercial system will be available shortly afterwards."

So is anybody here a betatester? Just wondering what your thoughts are on this.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #218 on: January 04, 2011, 06:40:35 PM »
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From the A-eon site:
http://a-eon.com/news.html
"A-EON Technology and its partners Varisys, AmigaKit and Hyperion Entertainment would like to wish the whole Amiga community a happy, prosperous and peaceful New Year. 2011 promises to be an exciting year. AmigaOne X1000 Beta Testers should take delivery of their revision 2 Nemo motherboards during the first quarter of 2011 and all being well, commercial system will be available shortly afterwards."

So is anybody here a betatester? Just wondering what your thoughts are on this.


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #219 on: January 04, 2011, 07:17:33 PM »
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ok 800X 480 res not billiant.  But my phone will connect to telly.  wll connect to a bluetooth keyboard, though even has one.  Can connect wii controller, and ps3 controllers.  Runs linux, had an amiga emulator, plus snes, megadrive etc.  had 600mhz arm proc whoch can do 1ghz.  cant be botherd to go on beacuse whislt i wold never use my phone as a replacement for desktop/laptop  its a computer under any defination you can think of.


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #220 on: January 04, 2011, 07:49:48 PM »
Wow, this was first posted on 01-05-2010, 11:00 AM !

We are on the cusp of the first anniversary of Nothing! I am sooo excited about the anniversary of Nothing, it's like Nothing before!

Help me celebrate a new era of Nothing! Whhhhewww!:banana:


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Adding further to the riddles provided, today was a day to release more information on the hardware involved in Hyperion's 'Most Ambitious Project'.

"At the start of this journey, we posed the question 'what is X?' The answer is that X is many things. X is the Xena/XMOS chip, and the Xorro slot that accompanies it. X is the mystery CPU, and above all, X is the AmigaOne X1000, the new complete desktop computer system from A-EON.

It's almost 25 years since Commodore released the A1000 model that launched the line in the summer of 1985, and with the launch of the X1000 we will usher in a new beginning for the AmigaOS platform. Just as Commodore did with the A1000, we're aiming at the high-end first, with a powerful desktop computer aimed at the professional and serious hobbyist markets (although you won't have to wait until summer, and it should be a little cheaper!)"


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #221 on: January 04, 2011, 07:59:57 PM »
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Linux on the other hand still has me frequently doing total re-installs.


Why would you do that? I have Linux setups at work that are 5-6 years old that have never been down other than for kernel upgrades and power outages, and that are still as clean as can be. Many of our systems have been running 24/7 with no downtime for 3+ years.

If you need frequent total reinstalls with Linux you're doing something very bizarre to it.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #222 on: January 04, 2011, 08:11:54 PM »
A year in the real tech world is like a month in Amiga time. Things don't move real fast around these parts!

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Wow, this was first posted on 01-05-2010, 11:00 AM !

We are on the cusp of the first anniversary of Nothing! I am sooo excited about the anniversary of Nothing, it's like Nothing before!

Help me celebrate a new era of Nothing! Whhhhewww!:banana:


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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #223 on: January 04, 2011, 08:48:18 PM »
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Why would you do that? I have Linux setups at work that are 5-6 years old that have never been down other than for kernel upgrades and power outages, and that are still as clean as can be. Many of our systems have been running 24/7 with no downtime for 3+ years.

If you need frequent total reinstalls with Linux you're doing something very bizarre to it.


Exactly my thoughts. Reinstalling is the easy way out, try to fix it, you might learn something.

My main Debian sid install is more than 4 years old and I never had any mayor problems, it's running 24/7 and it's rocksolid. I only reboot after kernel upgrades.

I even think that almost any Linux distro is easier to install and maintain for the average Joe/Jane than any of the Amiga clones around (or Windows).
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #224 from previous page: January 04, 2011, 08:57:29 PM »
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We are on the cusp of the first anniversary of Nothing! I am sooo excited about the anniversary of Nothing, it's like Nothing before!


Time flies when you're waiting for Amigas!

..not that I'm waiting for this overpriced joke of a computer.
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