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« Reply #149 on: January 12, 2010, 12:48:27 AM »
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #150 on: January 28, 2010, 10:18:46 AM »
The POWER6 processor is also compliant with the Power ISA v.2.04 specifications, and it's dual core.

It does not seem to be marketed to hobbists but rather to higher end markets that need processing power that would utilize the mentioned clustering technology. It would be in the Workstation level rather than the Desktop level.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #151 on: January 29, 2010, 07:57:21 PM »
Any new rumors?

All negatives aside, I am somewhat excited about this thing. And there is a very good chance I will purchase one of them if they do materialize.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #152 on: January 29, 2010, 09:18:20 PM »
Hopefully it stops being a rumor and becomes more a reality.  I would think by now Hyperion would make more of an announcement or at least a little more game playing with hints.  Once you let something out of the bag, need to spill the beans.  Or, be like Apple, and not say a peep until Mr Jobs says it.  hehehe
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #153 on: January 29, 2010, 09:18:27 PM »
Someone in china is producing them right now as we post.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #154 on: January 29, 2010, 11:57:15 PM »
The Power6 consumes a whole lot more than the 20 watts that A-Eon was talking about, it also runs at much higher clock speeds.  IBM reports it reaching 85 degrees when pushed to 5.6 GHz, but normal speed is around 3.8.  It's a server class chip.  One that would be a game changer, but doesn't fit the information we've been given....

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The POWER6 processor is also compliant with the Power ISA v.2.04 specifications, and it's dual core.

It does not seem to be marketed to hobbists but rather to higher end markets that need processing power that would utilize the mentioned clustering technology. It would be in the Workstation level rather than the Desktop level.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #155 on: January 30, 2010, 11:39:49 AM »
If we all agree that ANY new Amiga will be always directed to the Hobbyists niche (other niches require too much investment), what we'll really need is: Hobbyists SW. What are those?
* Do I really need fully 2010 browsing experience probably having a powerfull dual core windows or osx notebook some inches away from my x1000?
* Do I really need OpenOffice? Anyone plan to use x1000 for Serious Business?

What hobbyists tools should be?
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #156 on: January 30, 2010, 12:07:28 PM »
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If we all agree that ANY new Amiga will be always directed to the Hobbyists niche (other niches require too much investment), what we'll really need is: Hobbyists SW. What are those?
* Do I really need fully 2010 browsing experience probably having a powerfull dual core windows or osx notebook some inches away from my x1000?
* Do I really need OpenOffice? Anyone plan to use x1000 for Serious Business?

What hobbyists tools should be?


Until OS4 is fully SMP, it's not going to matter if it's dual core or not.  Yes, this is a nano sized niched market that can not support anything beyond SAM440 pricing if you want volume sales of four digit, perhaps three digit.  If the X1000 is $2,500USD or more, it may not leave the two digit sales volume.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #157 on: January 30, 2010, 04:38:04 PM »
I always figured that an "average" comupter user does email, browses the web, and sucks pics off their digital camera (but few of them actually retouch the pics), and maybe play some games (nothing serious for the "average" user). And they may type a simple document every now and then, or have a spreadsheet that adds the contents of a couple cells. So the needs of the average user aren't that great.

I myself have a vast amount of other things I do on a PC, some of which most folks here probably aren't even familiar with.  And I don't expect that most of them will ever be possible on a "new Amiga" (you can't do many of them on a Mac...).

But I would still love to have a "Amiga" with more modern capabilities. People are purchasing SAM's, and old Mac's to run MorphOS. And running AROS and UAE. So there seems to be an appreciable market there. Pickup some non-Amgia-tard, "average users", and that sweetens the market.

A new Amiga wouldn't need to be a giant killer, and storm the market. And if it could gain a foothold, maybe the size of the niche would grow. But there is a time window that needs to be addressed... The new machine needs to materialize before all the old Amiga-tards die off, so that market can be used to gain a foothold.

As James Earl Jones told Kevin Kostner in Field of Dreams - "Oh... people will come Ray." ;-)
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #158 on: January 30, 2010, 05:22:25 PM »
oops. mispost (replied to very old post)
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #159 on: July 27, 2010, 02:14:53 PM »
Not to be devil's advocate or anything but with the announcement that MorphOS will now support the G5 systems, will this machine be worth the money?
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #160 on: July 27, 2010, 02:36:49 PM »
Perhaps I am jumping for bait here, but I don't see how MorphOS supporting G5s will change the X1000's value for money. MorphOS running on G5s doesn't mean OS4 will run on the same machine, and so the X1000 is still the only way to run OS4 on "high end" hardware. There are plenty of people who don't think it's worth the money anyway, and maybe the MorphOS solution is an option for them. There are also those who want to run OS4 on the fastest possible hardware, and for them the situation won't change either...
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #161 on: July 27, 2010, 02:53:37 PM »
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Not to be devil's advocate or anything but with the announcement that MorphOS will now support the G5 systems, will this machine be worth the money?
Good question, indeed.

To illustrate the point: I could get 4 (including MorphOS licenses to each) dual-G5 2.5GHz systems for price of one X1000 (assuming conservative £1500 price, not "north of"). Most often these systems also include Mac OS X which also is a nice bonus.
 

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #162 on: July 27, 2010, 03:10:06 PM »
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Good question, indeed.
 
To illustrate the point: I could get 4 (including MorphOS licenses to each) dual-G5 2.5GHz systems for price of one X1000 (assuming conservative £1500 price, not "north of"). Most often these systems also include Mac OS X which also is a nice bonus.

but those who want os4 won't buy a g5 mac. on a g5 mac won't run win7.
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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #163 on: July 27, 2010, 04:21:30 PM »
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those who want os4 won't buy a g5 mac.
Clearly not. But those who objectively compare MorphOS and OS4 might actually get MorphOS instead, especially when the hardware is so much more affordable.

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I'm not quite sure how that is related, but indeed PowerPC hasn't been able to run windows since Windows NT 3.51.

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Re: Hyperion/A-EON introduce us to the AmigaOne X1000. A new beginning?
« Reply #164 from previous page: July 27, 2010, 04:40:05 PM »
But PPC Macs can run Windows up to and including XP Professional  in emulation .

Being a hobbyist and home user,I COULD set up my G4 to boot  into Mac OS Leopard,Ubuntu (or another)  Linux,or MorphOS.

Run Windows using Virtual PC in Mac OS.

Run OS4 emulation in Morph OS ?

Probably can run some emulators of old consoles in MacOS or even run emulators in Windows (itself running in emulation).

Might have to rename my computer Sybil.