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Offline Boudicca

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Re: New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues
« Reply #449 from previous page: January 06, 2010, 12:11:52 AM »
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We can't see this video here !!! arrghhh !
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=podSwaNge7E

Try that one..........Still pants !!!!! I preferred not knowing personally.
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How about a punched card reader too?



It has a CF reader. You can punch one and try :D

Now for the serious question: Does anybody have experience with the XMOS chip? It looks very nice, but what it is capable of?
I undertand that as it uses a parallel architecture, I should not take the 400Mips speed as I would do for an ARM fo example, but is it fast enough for data processing, or it is just something I could use for minor tasks?
Would it make the difference or would it better to rely on raw CPU power instead?
 

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@AeroMan

My understanding is that the XCore chip sits in a sleep state and only wakes up for processing I/O and things that you would normally use interrupts to handle.

The CPU should be much more powerful.
 

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Quote from: AeroMan;536664
It has a CF reader. You can punch one and try :D

Now for the serious question: Does anybody have experience with the XMOS chip? It looks very nice, but what it is capable of?
I undertand that as it uses a parallel architecture, I should not take the 400Mips speed as I would do for an ARM fo example, but is it fast enough for data processing, or it is just something I could use for minor tasks?
Would it make the difference or would it better to rely on raw CPU power instead?


It's a low power embedded processor with 64kb sram that probably won't be utilized because it doesn't actually add anything of value to a desktop system. If it was stuffed onto a PCI-e card for the PC folks would laugh at it and the company that made it would go out of business.
 

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Since the Titan just started shipping limited quantities in October of 2009, is dual-core, has a very low thermal design point - the clock speed could be at 1.6Ghz but the cores are rated to 2Ghz currently. Sounds like a contender to me. ;^)



Nice find. I'm liking this more and more.

Either I need cheaper hobbies or a good paying job, so I can afford all the cool toys.
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Nice find. I'm liking this more and more.


Same here... Although I dunno if I'm going to get the A-Eon. From what I'm reading SAM is listed as the low end in the a-eon website so like others have mentioned we could see a motherboard cost alone that is up to double the cost of a SAM. $1000 for a fully functional configured system is all I spend (and it will have to blow my socks off). I'll spend more on a money on a system if it makes me money back for my business.

But for something that will for the most part be used for trips down memory lane and reliving retro games (until Siginificant OS4 releases come out) I can't justify $1000. I suspect that many others can't justify that either.

The hard reality Hyperion are going to face here is that current patterns effect future trends. The trend is for $300 netbooks, $150 consoles, and low cost machines. Big Desktops sales are down and all my buddies would only spend $1200 or more on a KICK ASS laptop or Desktop for a highly specialzed business purpose...or a MAC

But Hyperion know all this and will price the machine for Amiga Enthusiasts who are prepared to pay for this. I hope that this X1000 will spawn a X500 with expansion capabilities. I think Hyperion will realize this just like Commodore did when they released the A1000.

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I hope that this X1000 will spawn a X500 with expansion capabilities.


Hopefully it has an edge connector ;)

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Quote from: Crom00;536686

The hard reality Hyperion are going to face here is that current patterns effect future trends. The trend is for $300 netbooks, $150 consoles, and low cost machines. Big Desktops sales are down and all my buddies would only spend $1200 or more on a KICK ASS laptop or Desktop for a highly specialzed business purpose...or a MAC

But Hyperion know all this and will price the machine for Amiga Enthusiasts who are prepared to pay for this. I hope that this X1000 will spawn a X500 with expansion capabilities. I think Hyperion will realize this just like Commodore did when they released the A1000.

These days it's almost impossible to compete with x86 on the desktop. There just isn't enough volume for PowerPC to drive the R&D necessary to create competitive chips for the desktop (and laptop) market. Apple realized this and switched to x86. If Hyperion wanted OS4 to be anything more than a niche OS for nostalgic hobbyists, they would head in the same direction.

There is some chance that ARM could gain a foothold in the low end market. They're starting to approach netbook class processing power, they're dirt cheap (considerably less than PowerPC chips with similar oomph aimed at the embedded market ) and they tend to have reasonably decent video hardware onboard (it seems most of the PowerPC based SoCs tend to be oriented at network hardware and thus don't have integrated video hardware). Even then, it's hard to say whether ARM will make it in the personal computer market (though it's doing just fine in the mobile device market obviously).

So anyway, I wouldn't expect an X500, or if there is one I wouldn't expect awesome price/performance. PowerPC desktop hardware is going to be a niche for the forseeable future and as a result it's going to be expensive for what you get.

Sorry for the negativity. It's cool that Hyperion is trying to keep the Amiga platform alive, but I think it's good to have realistic expectations.
 

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@Crom00

$1000 = 700 euro .....

700 euro isnt enough to buy you a complete Sam440 system, let alone this a-eon thing.
 

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Quote from: MskoDestny;536704
These days it's almost impossible to compete with x86 on the desktop. There just isn't enough volume for PowerPC to drive the R&D necessary to create competitive chips for the desktop (and laptop) market. Apple realized this and switched to x86. If Hyperion wanted OS4 to be anything more than a niche OS for nostalgic hobbyists, they would head in the same direction.


IIRC Apple switched to Intel because Motorola were unable to make a G5 processor run cool enough to use in a laptop. This was a serious issue for Apple who were stuck with the increasingly obsolete G4 chips for laptops, they had to do something. Whether Motorola's failure was due to the volume issue you describe is debatable, but I would suggest it was more of an engineering/architecture problem. Hopefully the new PPC chip spoken of relating to the X1000 will run cool enough for any potential use in a future laptop configuration.

I lol'd at the mention of a floppy disk drive earlier in the thread, but I have to say, it would be nice to have a USB Amiga compatible floppy disk drive available for less than $35 for transferring data either on any new machine or just to be able to load games into UAE.

My humble opinion is that Hyperion have a lot of work cut out for them, but they seem to have hit the ground running and I wish them all the success in their endeavours.
 

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@Crom00

$1000 = 700 euro .....

700 euro isnt enough to buy you a complete Sam440 system, let alone this a-eon thing.


The A-Eon thing comes with a packet of white grease you can apply to the one foot heat sink pole on the XCore processor. The idea is that then end user sits and spins on it while nobody writes applications for it.
 

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IIRC Apple switched to Intel because Motorola were unable to make a G5 processor run cool enough to use in a laptop.

The G5 actually used came from IBM...