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Re: New Hyperion Entertainment Website http://a-eon.com/ - The Mystery Continues
« Reply #344 from previous page: January 05, 2010, 06:32:20 AM »
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Anyone know what this is?

about $2500 USD. :)
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Yep, you've made your point now how many times? Buy your freakin' PC and be happy with it already! Nobody is forcing you to buy this new Hyperion/A-EON machine or to even be remotely interested in it.

Your total lack of knowledge about scale of markets offends me to be honest. Do you really not get that when you produce something exclusive in a relatively low volume price per piece will be higher? Or are you just an anti-Hyperion fanboy/troll?


I am not the one saying that its going to be ultimate hardware, on the edge, blah blah... Hyperion are. So whats wrong with comparing it with what's out there already?
 

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I agree with you. They are certainly hyping it up with statements like this.
 
Many nerdly people are starting to  migrate to 16 core machines and 64 bit ridiculous powered machines. It will be interesting to see how this stacks up to those kind of systems.
 
One thing I will say is that brute force is not always the best solution
to a problem. I still marvel at what a 7mhz amiga could do back in the day, especially when compared to a 33mhz 386 or even the start of the 486 line. Amiga just did it better through the partnership of hw/sw, and ofloading sound and video to the custom chips, freeing the processor
as much as possible. That was thinking that was 10 years ahead of its
time.  Perhaps returning to that model is exactly what this will be.
 
"Remeber when amiga could do things other computers could not?"

Yes I remember it well, and I hope to see this again, but I'm doubtful that
it can be done with the resources they possess. Perhaps however, I am optimistic at least that it may be possible, given the right people working on it and supporting it. I have to admit for the first time in a long time I'm excited to see what is coming down the pipeline.
 
Hyperion has at least proven it can deliver.
 
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Well Hyperion said it, they want to bring Amiga back to its former glory - needless to say its exciting, but there is a LONG way to go.

1. Amiga was affordable - the A500 sold millions.

2. Amiga had awesome graphics and audio capabilities. Through this it was better than anything available in the market.

3. Amiga OS was state of the art for the time.

4. It had great new commercial software coming out for it all the time. After all its the software which makes you buy a system for it, not the OS, or the brand name, to be commercially viable.

I am curious to learn how Hyperion will tackle 1 to 4 with this new machine to bring fun in computing back....
 

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Had not noticed that before, but yes they are lots further into the board than normal.  I guess its only going to fit properly in the A-EON case.

The slots are in the normal position (compare length vs. offset from edge), it just looks a bit odd because the area behind the slots is so empty.

The board's standard ATX, would be silly to not use a common form factor.
 

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Quote from: Zac67;536466
The slots are in the normal position (compare length vs. offset from edge), it just looks a bit odd because the area behind the slots is so empty.

The board's standard ATX, would be silly to not use a common form factor.


He's right. My PC motherboard's PCIe slots are equally far in from the edge.
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Quote from: Zac67;536466
The slots are in the normal position (compare length vs. offset from edge), it just looks a bit odd because the area behind the slots is so empty.

The board's standard ATX, would be silly to not use a common form factor.

Ah, thats good then, just a bit of an optical illusion.
 

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Quote from: JimS;536353
I have to disagree that the Amiga never competed on price. It always did. Comparing it to the Spectrum/64 - still available at the A1000 introduction is unfair.


True, but people are saying that they'd only consider investing in something at netbook money...  netbooks are in my view crippled pcs, and like an 8 bit computer compared to the amiga at the time of launch (ok, that's hyperbole, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say :D )

There will always be a low end with a price point.  There will always be a high end, which will have a more varying pricepoint IMHO...


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Alas, that was then, and this is now. ;-/  The marketplace is different. A new machine has to be able to support all the media standards on the web - a huge software requirement right out of the gate... tricky....


Fully agree: if this thing doesn't support a decent browser and multimedia - and in some people's eyes the browser is the OS - then it will be tricky.

Interesting views, interesting debate!
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Back in the period 95 to 00, people laughed at the price of prelude sound cards, picasso iv, cyberstorms, a1200s and a4000s. They were never cheap. It was the software and OS which made it worth it.
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Well, the next piece of the puzzle should soon be revealed :)
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Quote from: arnljot;536471
Back in the period 95 to 00, people laughed at the price of prelude sound cards, picasso iv, cyberstorms, a1200s and a4000s. They were never cheap. It was the software and OS which made it worth it.


It was the complete package that made it worth it, like the Mac does nowadays IMHO.

Indeed...  I remember reviewing the Cyberstorm 060 and Cybervision 64 for CU Amiga (Aug 1995): the CyberStorm was £949, and the Cybervision was £329.  At the time, a graphics card for the PC with the very same graphics chip and memory would have been about half the price...

Nigh on £1300 for a processor and graphics card.

And that was fifteen years ago!
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Quote from: chiark;536470
True, but people are saying that they'd only consider investing in something at netbook money...  netbooks are in my view crippled pcs, and like an 8 bit computer compared to the amiga at the time of launch (ok, that's hyperbole, but hopefully you get what I'm trying to say :D )


I don´t agree with that. If you are focusing on portability, netbooks are unbeatable. My EEE fits on my briefcase, a notebook would require a second case to carry. The computing power is enough for my needs.
It is an interesting marketing for an Amiga device. Considering some companies are heading to non Intel solutions to play Browser focused apps, we only need a decent browser
A desktop/netbook pair would work just like A1200/A4000. (that´s my opinion...)

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There will always be a low end with a price point.  There will always be a high end, which will have a more varying pricepoint IMHO...


Agree... Amigas made a bridge between then with the A500/A2000, A600/A3000 and A1200/A4000. You could start with the small one and go big box when you wish. I like that Idea



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Fully agree: if this thing doesn't support a decent browser and multimedia - and in some people's eyes the browser is the OS - then it will be tricky.


Agree again. It is a major need
 

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It was the complete package that made it worth it, like the Mac does nowadays IMHO.


100% agree. It was a complete package.
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100% agree. It was a complete package.


If it boots to OS in under 20 Secs.  Supports a usable browser and flash. handles MP3s and MP4s and can manage my photos and mass storage.  Then.... Count me in Jerry !...  I'm Love'n it !....
 

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well share.  I dont go to that site
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