Cybervision 64/3D or Picasso IV?

[mikey2001]

I would like to ask the advice of the people on this forum.

Which graphics card is best out of the Cybervision 64/3D and Picasso IV? I would be using it in my A4000 desktop and maybe my A2000 as well. All advice greatly appriciated.  :-)

[x56h34]

Picasso IV -> ZII/ZIII autosensing, 4MB video memory, built-in ScanDoubler/FlickerFixer, on-board slot(s) for sound card expansion, mpeg module, tv-card, etc., needs to be cut in half for fitting in A2000 (literary)

Cybervision 64/3D -> ZII/ZIII autosensing?, 4MB video memory, on-board slot for an optional ScanDoubler/FlickerFixer module, 3D hardware acceleration (very basic compared to CybervisionPPC/Voodoo, but still...)

If you can buy CV64/3D that comes with the ScanDoubler/FlickerFixer module, I say go for it, otherwise Picasso IV is a very nice solution as well.

Overall IMHO, CV64/3D wins, but just barely.

[bloodline]

mikey2001 wrote:
I would like to ask the advice of the people on this forum.

Which graphics card is best out of the Cybervision 64/3D and Picasso IV? I would be using it in my A4000 desktop and maybe my A2000 as well. All advice greatly appriciated.  :-)

Don't forget the MediatorPCI option, which would aloow far more than either of these very old cards.

[logicalheart]

For the A4000, I would suggest going the Mediator route and getting a Voodoo card.  If you don't want the Mediator, then go for a PicassoIV unless you can find a Cybervision3D w/Flicker Fixer.  - Lars

[Acill]

I agree with the others about the Mediator. For about the same price as a new Picasso 4 card (if you can find one) you can get a Mediator. Its not much more if you get the package with the Mediator/tower together. Elbox is offering free shipping now too. Go check it out.

When i was wanting a new graphics card for my A3000 I just about got the P4, an x-surf and a few other things. For less money I got a Used Voodoo 3, paid $5 for a PCI ethernet card, and got the Mediator for $300 with free shipping from Elbox. You cant beat it.

[pVC]

I'd go for PIV. It has better picture quality than CV3D, IMHO. And AFAIK it's bit faster and has nice bonus features like built-in scandoubler/flickerfixer, addon-options, possibility to add frequency of video-modes etc..
CV3D is nice for "cheap" gfx-card, but lacks bit in speed and picture quality and 3D features are useless in practise. And scandoubler addons are quite rare for it...

[Jope]

CV64/3D is ZII/III autosensing + the scandoubler (no flickerfixer!) only works in an A4000 video slot. (it won't work even if you modify the A2000 video slot to take it)

The PIV is a nicer card, but don't waste it in an A2000! Stick it in an A4000. Please. Zorro II is just so slow when you're running the card at modern resolutions - screen flipping takes several seconds when the entire bitmap chugs through the 3.5MB/s bus.

I have a CV64 in my A4000 and a CV64/3D in my A2000, guess which one is nice to use and which one is agonisingly slow?-) Both machines are 060/50. :-)

[Effy]

For only 130 euro you can get a brandnew CV64/3D at Vesalia ...

[zipper]

PicassoIV.
But CV3D is the only option to run hw accelerated games on my A500T - then just ADescentWarp3D is the only game to reach decent speed, at 320x400 at most, on Blizzard2060...

[redrumloa]

None of the above, and not even mediator.

I'd recomend you get a Prometheus unless you want everything to fit neatly in a stock desktop case, then I would say Mediator.

[Acill]

But CV3D is the only option to run hw accelerated games on my A500T

I like to see some pics of your A500T system. Is it self made? What type of bus is in it?

[CU_AMiGA]

Acill wrote:

But CV3D is the only option to run hw accelerated games on my A500T

I like to see some pics of your A500T system. Is it self made? What type of bus is in it?

Yeah! Me too.

[mikey2001]

For only 130 euro you can get a brandnew CV64/3D at Vesalia  ...

That works out at only £90.64 in my currency. Although expensive for a graphics card, its seems pretty cheap to me. And it will definately be going in the A4000... Thanks for the tip Effy, and thank you everyone else for your advice.  :-)  :-)

[Radfoo]

That works out at only £90.64 in my currency.

I think Eyetech advertised them at £90 in the last issue of Total Amiga. They always charge a small fortune for postage though :-( .

[xeron]

redrumloa wrote:
I'd recomend you get a Prometheus unless you want everything to fit neatly in a stock desktop case, then I would say Mediator.

Why would you recommend promethius over a mediator? It has only one DMA capable slot, less drivers, and a smaller userbase (so less people to ask if you're stuck).