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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #14 on: December 10, 2009, 04:02:59 PM »
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Hi all,
@MastaTabs: I have no idea what you mean by "memory mapped mode"

@zipper: Full line in ShowConfig is:

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic):   Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)
Gertsy


Memory mapped = segmented I think.
that 64k is the driver part or whatsit called; it should also show the memory part, 1 or 2 MB with a functioning  card.
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #15 on: December 10, 2009, 11:10:06 PM »
No, memory mapped = linear.
Well, you can say everything is memory mapped in Amigaland, since there is no IO area which needs special treatment by the processor for being accessed. I just used the term for the linear mapping, since the segmented mode is somehow related to this IO stuff.

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2009, 11:23:21 PM »
on a second look E90000 is pretty far up in the ZII config space. This space is only used when the whole other address is already in use. I think there is no more room left for the frame buffer of the card.
Do you have any ZorroII memory cards installed ?

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2009, 03:13:53 PM »
Nup, Still not sure what you're saying Mastatabs. Linear=contiguous, segmented=uncontiguous is my understanding.  There are no other cards on the zorro bus.
Anyone with a Picasso 2+ on their A4000? I'm looking for help...

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #18 on: December 12, 2009, 05:03:56 PM »
Forget it then. Its no matter then. Your understanding is correct anyway.

Could you provide us with a complete ShowConfig output of your machine ?

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2009, 12:25:38 PM »
Hi, thanks again for the help. There are no other cards or boards installed.
The only output for Showconfig is what ive pasted.

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

Should Showconfig be listing the 2MB of memory on the Picasso II+ ?  Cos it 'aint.  I'll put it back in my 2000 and see what showconfig says there.

cheers,

Gertsy.
« Last Edit: December 13, 2009, 12:32:46 PM by gertsy »
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2009, 01:04:10 PM »
I'd put it back in the 2000 just to make sure something did't go "pop" when you moved it. Been know to happen with these old boards. Sorry I can be of more help, just sold my Picasso II+.
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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2009, 02:56:32 PM »
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Hi, thanks again for the help. There are no other cards or boards installed.
The only output for Showconfig is what ive pasted.

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

Should Showconfig be listing the 2MB of memory on the Picasso II+ ?  Cos it 'aint.  I'll put it back in my 2000 and see what showconfig says there.

cheers,

Gertsy.


It looks like you are running out of ZII memory space (8MB max).
Are you sure you do not have an 8MB memory expansion or an accelerator board like a GVP A3001 with 8MB installed ?
If it is the case, you have to sacrifice 2MB for your picasso II.

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Frederic
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #22 on: December 13, 2009, 03:08:58 PM »
did you move the drivers to the monitor drawer?
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #23 on: December 13, 2009, 03:41:26 PM »
Ok do any Z2 cards work in any of the Zslots in the A3k?

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Quote from: gertsy;533662
Hi, thanks again for the help. There are no other cards or boards installed.
The only output for Showconfig is what ive pasted.

Boards:
Board (Village Tronic): Prod=2167/12($877/$C) (@$E90000 64K)

Should Showconfig be listing the 2MB of memory on the Picasso II+ ?  Cos it 'aint.  I'll put it back in my 2000 and see what showconfig says there.

cheers,

Gertsy.
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #24 on: December 13, 2009, 05:01:15 PM »
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Hi, I need some help with my Picasso II+ board in my A4000.
I’ve moved it from my A2000 to my A4000 so I know it’s working fine.
I’ve installed the board and ShowConfig says its there: Board (Village Tronic):  Prod=2167/12
I’ve Installed Picasso96 and the Picasso monitor driver is in DEVS:monitors but no modes are available.
If I run Debug it comes up “No Board”
If I run Picasso96 as suggested in the guide I cannot attach a mode setting to the device as it comes up “No Board” in the menu.

Something simple I’m sure,but its about 6 years since I last did this on an A2000, as well as me being tired and going to bed now.

Help appreciated.

Cheers.


Gertsy.


Hi,

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Do you have the special plug that comes from the back of the Amiga 23 pin connector that goes to the Picasso II board. The plug should feed in from the Amiga 23 pic connector to the Picasso II boards inner plug, the VGA plug should go to the outer plug on the Picasso II board. If you did this then try redoing Picasso 96.\

Remember the Picasso II board needed a video input from another board, I am using a GVP IV24 board to feed my video input.
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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 11:30:42 AM »
Hi all, an update on this.
After Xmas I finally got the card back into my A2000.  It works fine.

So back in my A4000 I've put a wait in my startup and noticed the following error:

Picasso96: could not create graphics board context for 'Picasso II'
Please check your Picasso96 installation.

I have a Buddah Flash working fine but I'm begininng to think I may have a problem with the MB or the Riser.

Any ideas on how to check it out ?
I've just purchased a Retina BLT Z3 and am worried I may not be able to use it in my A4000

Gertsy   )o:
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2010, 11:55:29 AM »
Have you tried without the Buddha?
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2010, 12:23:17 PM »
Yep.
The card works perfectly in the A2000. OS 3.1.
I did a fresh OS install on the A4000 taking it back to OS 3.1 but the same issue.

The Showconfig should show 4 lines of text.  It does on the A2000.  On the A4000 I get only the first line of config.  Now I understand what the guys were trying to tell me before.

Could it be an Autoconfig issue ?  I remember reading somewhere once that the riser can get zapped by a bad card or jumper setting.

It's a pity if that's the case because the A4000 works flawlessly apart from that.  All the Caps have nice shiny solder and the audio is fine. But then why the Buddah works I don't know. it certainly has very few tracks from the Zorro slot.

Will see how the new card goes. Fingers crossed.

Gertsy.
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #28 on: January 13, 2010, 12:07:32 PM »
Ohh dear.  It's all bad.  My new Retina BLT Z3 only works in my A4000 for a minute or 2.
On HDW installation and booting the Amiga 4000 is fine. But then Showconfig only shows the one line just like for my Picasso. Chills..
Installed the software fired up Wb emulation and everything came up fine, on a LCD too.
Within 1-2mins however the mouse pointer and machine froze. Power light blinking slightly.
Tried different slots same result with differing run times.
Re-seated all the chips on the card.  which is everything but the NCR chip. Same result.
Power supply voltages are fine and it seems to run my Buddha and 3" 2Gb HD fine.
I am guessing it is not the card and probably my 4000.  But as it’s a Zorro III card I cant try it in my 2000.
I'm feeling very vulnerable right now...   Help....  )o:

PS: Forgot to mention once you reboot the A4000 the card has disappeared.  You have to turn the A4K off and on to see it again..

Sad gertsy....
« Last Edit: January 13, 2010, 12:11:12 PM by gertsy »
 

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Re: PICASSO II+ Transplant
« Reply #29 from previous page: February 12, 2010, 03:54:33 PM »
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JP301 (Comp Sync) and JP302 (DMPS feature) both are open. not enabled.
The other Jumper is JP401(Memory) 1-2=segmented. 2-3=1MB Linear. Open=2MB linear.

Which side is pin 1? I can't see any marks on the board...

Jen