New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.

[ZeBeeDee]

Perhaps it's time to do it the american way... the privacy policy of amiga.org says who amiga.org is, and also suggests that deletion of accounts can be done by mailing Wayne. If amiga.org refuse to live up to their own privacy policy, who should one sue?

As Wayne's name is presently on the title deeds to A.org, people would sue him (sorry Wayne but there it is). Jens is perfectly within his rights to persue this further, even if it means going to court.

If the site is not going to uphold it's privacy policy and remove said account upon request  then they are liable.  

IMO Jens is in the right here and Wayne should either block access to the account or remove it forthwith.

The divisions have started, battlelines drawn and it's between 2 of the biggest names in the community - All in the name of an anonymous owner ... go figure!

[Wayne]

The divisions have started, battlelines drawn and it's between 2 of the biggest names in the community - All in the name of an anonymous owner ... go figure!

You realize that ALL of this is utterly bleeping moronic, right?

It's bleep like this that caused the primary reason for my desire to move away from any association with this community.  While there are still several great people left in the community, by large majority, we're left with the pedants, back seat lawyers, and spoilt children who feel they have some inaliable rights to a public service.

With sincere apology, I realize I've lost all sense of civility, but frankly, there it is.

edit: Jens' account is now closed.  Not deleted, but closed.  Any private information from his account has been removed and he will NEVER have access to it again.  The terms of service will be updated shortly.  Stupidity closed.  

I'm now removing myself from this thread because frankly the stupidity shown by some of you children has pissed me off.  Where I thought there was intelligent life, some of you have gone out of your way to prove I was wrong.  Happy now?

Wayne

[Zac67]

As much as I don't follow Jens' logic and regret his decision, I don't think it's fair to deny his request for deletion and change policies after he's made his request. How about changing the account's name to something anonymous and disabling login for that account? That way the account wouldn't exist any more yet we wouldn't lose any posts.
Nothing in the privacy policy states/stated any right to demand deletion of all posts - nor would even German law suggest this.

[odin]

"You realize that ALL of this is utterly bleeping moronic, right?"

Sarcasm more likely.

[Wayne]

I really don't know why I'm bothering to point this out to the kids, but from the Privacy Policy, ala Terms of Service;

"You may request deletion of your Amiga.org account by e-mailing wayne@amiga.org from the e-mail account listed in your account."

"YOU MAY REQUEST".  

No such request has been made through e-mail.  Even if it were, it is still the right of the site to deny a request.  

The wording however could be, and will shortly be improved to denote such.

Wayne

[Zac67]

Obviously anyone may request anything from whoever. As far as common sense goes, that passage implies a right to have one's account deleted although it doesn't exactly say so.

You're splitting hairs here and as stated before, that's not fair and pretty disappointing.

[Dr.Bongo]

Been following this thread from the beginning and it amazes me how it just keeps going with nothing but a negative feeling. Is there no end?

Have to say though, If I'd felt strongly enough to invest in a community project I would want to be part of it. Each to there own I guess.

Enough of the negative,

@MobbyG - As a fellow broadcaster I understand you're frustration on the ART show. Think you did pretty well in the end.

@Wayne - Hope this isn't the final straw, and when it all blows over you feel like sticking around.

[spookyx]

The simple fact that this partly ridiculous and tedious discussion has been going on so long (too long for me) unobstructed and uncensored ensures me that we'll be able to enjoy our beloved a.org for years to come. I'm curious about what actually has happened, too - but as long as the site thrives, I can very well live with an absent owner.

well said  

[beller]

Since I'm probably the only A.O member who hasn't earned a point in this thread, perhaps I should chime in!

Whoever you are, whatever the motive, thanks for keeping the site up and in good hands!  Wayne's right, what does it matter who "owns" it.  Isn't a site really owned by the members who take the time to participate?

Happy Holidays to all!  Time for Peace on Earth and on Amiga.org!
Bob

[desiv]

Perhaps it's time to do it the american way...  who should one sue?

What?  You are implying that the American solution to problems is to sue, and that is truly insulting...  :madashell:

In fact, I believe America, and by inclusion myself, have been seriously and irreparably harmed by that statement!!!

You will be hearing from my Attorney shortly!!  I will email him.. no, wait, we're meeting for lunch anyway.. oh, I've got him in slot one on my speed-dial so I'll just call...

desiv
:lol::lol::lol:

(Couldn't help it..)

[CSixx]

For the record, I couldn't care less who owns the site, however, not having Jens here is a serious blow to this community.

[tone007]

Indivision ECS STINKS!

[ZeBeeDee]

Indivision ECS STINKS!

Nice review ... best you go break out the A520 modulator again then.

Be happy!

[smithy]

Nice review ... best you go break out the A520 modulator again then.

Be happy!

What's the story behind your sig?

[danwood]

@interwebs
Here's the raw audio...

http://www.amigaz.org/2009/11/29/art-raw-audio/

Hmmn 404 for me, where can I hear the audio?

[save2600]

05 Clear Screen.

10 Wow.

20 In the interest of maintaining sanity (to all), I suggest nobody read or add anything to this thread.

30 Show some respect and patience already.

40 No reason why A.org has to be turned into some cats litter box.

50 I'm very saddened how this turned out, especially for Wayne and Jens.

60 And Tone007... c'mon - surely not so. Or was that in some kind of retaliatory faux pas? Nevermind.

70 goto line 20 and STOP    lol