Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Author Topic: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000  (Read 5257 times)

Description:

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline barneyTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 555
    • Show only replies by barney
Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« on: November 05, 2009, 01:00:20 AM »
I heard for years that the Commodore A2320 was the best flicker fixer to buy.  Well, I made the plunge and went for it.  But...I must say that after comparing this new A2320 with my faithful Microway AGA-2000, I am really not all that impressed.  Yeah, the A2320 looks good, but I think the Microway actually looks better.  The colors appear richer and the picture is more fine.  

What is your opinion on this?  I am curious.  Thanks.

Barney
 

Offline tone007

Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2009, 01:02:16 AM »
2320 is better, an NTSC Microway won't do PAL modes.

Quality-wise, they're quite similar.
3 Commodore file cabinets, 2 Commodore USB turntables, 1 AmigaWorld beer mug
Alienware M14x i7 laptop running AmigaForever
 

Offline save2600

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 3261
  • Country: us
    • Show only replies by save2600
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2009, 01:12:51 AM »
Quote from: tone007;528401
2320 is better, an NTSC Microway won't do PAL modes.

Quality-wise, they're quite similar.


True dat, but when I had a Microway, I noticed fringing going on on the left hand side of certain screen modes. Even turning that tiny brass screw didn't help. A video card that won't switch between PAL and NTSC is completely useless as far as I'm concerned.

Shoulda bought the OCS/ECS Indivision  :-)
 

Offline tone007

Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2009, 01:18:51 AM »
Quote from: save2600;528402
Shoulda bought the OCS/ECS Indivision  :-)


Indivision blows all the old-school ones away.

..unfortunately, I can't fit mine into my A500 currently due to the CFIDE68k setup and accelerator.  It'll get in there though.
3 Commodore file cabinets, 2 Commodore USB turntables, 1 AmigaWorld beer mug
Alienware M14x i7 laptop running AmigaForever
 

Offline save2600

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Jul 2006
  • Posts: 3261
  • Country: us
    • Show only replies by save2600
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2009, 01:27:53 AM »
Cool! Yeah, I have one of those (cfide) coming too. Any day or month now... lol
 

Offline barneyTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 555
    • Show only replies by barney
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 05:16:27 AM »
A very strange thing I found out about the A2320 is that it doesn't display some screen backgrounds accurately.  After loading Magic WB and keeping the default wallpapers, the 2320 looks awful.  It's really hard to explain but the detail is all washed out and the colors are all smeared together.  

I know, I adjusted the screw on the back but it is still there.

Another thing I have a question about is when adjusting the screw on the back of the A2320, If I adjust it all the way to the left the screen looks fine.  Around midway, it looks fuzzy and all the way to the right it looks good.  Where should I adjust it?  Far left or far right?  Is there really any difference?

Barney
 

Offline tone007

Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 09:44:04 AM »
You turn the screw until it looks best, and then you stop.
3 Commodore file cabinets, 2 Commodore USB turntables, 1 AmigaWorld beer mug
Alienware M14x i7 laptop running AmigaForever
 

Offline Crumb

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2002
  • Posts: 1786
  • Country: 00
    • Show only replies by Crumb
    • http://cuaz.sourceforge.net
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 12:45:19 PM »
The best flickerfixer for A2000 is Indivision ECS.

@Tone007:

what accelerator are you using?
The only spanish amiga news web page/club: Club de Usuarios de Amiga de Zaragoza (CUAZ)
 

Offline tone007

Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 12:47:06 PM »
I was using a VXL*30, but I just sold it a couple of days ago.  Sold the Indivision as well.
3 Commodore file cabinets, 2 Commodore USB turntables, 1 AmigaWorld beer mug
Alienware M14x i7 laptop running AmigaForever
 

Offline barneyTopic starter

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 555
    • Show only replies by barney
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 03:37:58 PM »
I'm beginning to believe what your saying Crumb.  Looks like I'll be buying the Indivision for ECS in the very near future.  I just wish I could find a demo of how it looks in action.  I went to Amigakit and the demo they show doesn't give it justice.

Barney
 

Offline amigakit

Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2010, 09:58:18 PM »
There should be a video available on the web which shows our Technician's demonstration of IndivisionECS at last year's Amiwest show.
www.AmigaKit.com - Amiga Reseller | Manufacturer | Developer

New Products  --   Customer Help & Support -- @amigakit
 

Offline stefcep2

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Sep 2007
  • Posts: 1467
    • Show only replies by stefcep2
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2010, 02:12:08 AM »
Quote from: amigakit;540634
There should be a video available on the web which shows our Technician's demonstration of IndivisionECS at last year's Amiwest show.



Are the A1200 indivisions in stock?  Can only see A4000/ECS?
 

Offline KatManDEW

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Jan 2009
  • Posts: 346
    • Show only replies by KatManDEW
    • http://www.katmandew.com
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2010, 02:19:13 AM »
Can you run the output of the Indivision to the input of a Picasso video card, like I do with my Microway FF and Picasso II?
A1000
A1200 - Indivision. Apollo 1240.
A2000 - GVP 040-16 meg, 2 meg chip, CD-RW, Flicker Fixer, Picasso II, 8 Up, 286 Bridgecard, OS 3.9
A2000HD #2 - 8 meg RAM, Genlock, Tower case
 

Offline countzero

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2005
  • Posts: 1938
    • Show only replies by countzero
    • http://blog.coze.org
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2010, 05:42:05 AM »
Quote from: KatManDEW;540814
Can you run the output of the Indivision to the input of a Picasso video card, like I do with my Microway FF and Picasso II?

can't see a reason why you can't ? it's a regular VGA signal. :hammer:
I believe in mt. Fuji
 

Offline AmigaPixel

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Join Date: Apr 2007
  • Posts: 388
    • Show only replies by AmigaPixel
Re: Flicker Fixers: Commodore A2320 Vs. Microway AGA-2000
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2010, 06:49:23 AM »
I'm just wondering what resolutions does the A2320 allow the native amiga modes? I'm pretty sure with Indivision ECS you can get 1024 X 768 as long as you keep Workbench in default 16 colors.