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[guest11527]

Reinstalling Amiga 1200/600 can be real pain, without a 1mb rom.

Any hard drive works, compared that needs to test about 5 diffrent IDE hard drives to found one wich actually works. My current hard drive didn't work at all with original kickstart 3.1.

Why does that correlate to the ROM size, and why does the Cloanto ROM not work? If you want to "install" an Amiga, this hardly depends on the ROM, or leave alone its size. It depends on the availability of the medium containing all necessary files. If workbench.library is on it - no problem.

So please don't try to find excuses if you want to be cheap.

[Georg]

INAL, but this is as far as I see and understand it not covered by the license.

Btw, I thought you were an *ex* AmigaOS developer?

Does your contract/license/whatever allow you to work on AmigaOS stuff/keep a copy of complete AmigaOS sources on HD/etc. even as ex developer?

Is it the same for all/most ~recent "post Commodore era" ex developers?

[guest11527]

In what sense does it matter?  Licensing?  Functionality?  Stability?

Legality. I said this in first place. Or how do you get hands on - say - the graphics.library to place it in an alternative ROM? You need to reverse-engineer the original ROM, extract it from there, possibly relocate it and place it in your ROM image. And again, IANAL, most licenses do not allow you to do so. This disection step is the problematic part.

People having been using rom2fast and numerous other system patches that were not official since the very first amiga.  They've paid for the system software,

Hold on, no! They/you paid for a software license that comes with certain restrictions and responsibilities. Do not ask me, but disecting a work to create a derived work is IMHO not covered by the original software license. And you don't need to believe me or trust me. You'd better ask the owner.

They simply want another way to run it different to the original design.

Except that dissecting the original system ROM may not be admissible. Is this really so hard to understand? I'm not saying this the first time. Please ask Cloanto or Hyperion to get a definite answer, do not ask me. Until this is clarified, I will not support such "ROMs", and there is no "provably legit" ROM of 1MB.

[utri007]

Why does that correlate to the ROM size, and why does the Cloanto ROM not work? If you want to "install" an Amiga, this hardly depends on the ROM, or leave alone its size. It depends on the availability of the medium containing all necessary files. If workbench.library is on it - no problem.

So please don't try to find excuses if you want to be cheap.

If you quote me, please do it correctly / complete. Official rom with newer scsi.device is useless. Do not say what I think or what are my reasons, especially if you have just quote another people point just partially.

There is a official kickstart 3.1 with newer scsi.device, but workbench library is left out. That could also be dead end with real amiga.

[edit] Dead end means that reinstalling requires floppy wich has a workbench.library. If there isn't one how to get one? Floppies are not trustworthy, it is importnt that installing OS doesn't have any special requirements. With my current kickstart, any flpppy wich boots to dos is OK to install OS3.9 or 3.5

Another point is, is even possible to have all filesystems in official rom? like FFS, SFS and PFS? Latter two are now free, but selling them might be impossible?

[guest11527]

Dead end means that reinstalling requires floppy wich has a workbench.library. If there isn't one how to get one?

While I haven't checked, I would assume that Cloanto would be happy to sell you one, i.e. a disk including the workbench. Thus, I don't quite see where your problem is.  

Another point is, is even possible to have all filesystems in official rom? like FFS, SFS and PFS? Latter two are now free, but selling them might be impossible?

The FFS is surely ROM-able, and at least the 40.x version is licensed by Cloanto, including a full source code license as I came into learning. I would hope that they have obtained all necessary rights on the updated version they provide, though I do not know how it was created - but that's at least their problem and not mine. I hope their lawyers checked...

The V45 version was done by Heinz for 3.9, and while I do not know his contracts, I would assume that it is still his source and it was only licensed to H&P. So whether this could be put into ROM from a legal perspective, or whether Heinz would be willing to provide his source for such an activity I do not know.

As far as the SFS and PFS is concerned, I neither know. I do not know whether it is technically possible (i.e. is the code ROM-able) and under which license they are available (so, what level of "free" your "free" actually means). I was never interested much in either of them, so I did not check.

Anyhow, any RDB-aware host adapter will be able to load a filing system from harddisk, so there is really not much trouble using an alternative or newer filing system even without the ROM given there is a suitably simple installation process for the filing system. From a technical perspective, it is entirely unnecessary to put the FFS, the SFS or the PFS into ROM.

One thing that irritates me is that you're so much playing with the "ease of installation" argument, leaving aside that is much harder to actually *prepare* a custom ROM in first place than to install an Amiga from its native ROMs using software updates. Unless you imply that "somehow" the user willing to make an installation gets his "custom ROM image for simple installation" from "somewhere".  

That, however, is quite clearly piracy, without any argument, my friend!

[QuikSanz]

Well, Since Cloanto holds the rights, could they not make custom flash ROM's for a fee and make money instead of giving things away? they have access to almost every patch known to the world.

[Tygre]

Can't read your SysInfo screen!  Too small   I think it says 54 mips?

Do you mind posting your Startup-Sequence?

Oops, sorry about the image, I updated my post to have a "clickable" image... There was a link to Startup-Sequence in my post too

Enjoy!