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Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« on: November 07, 2003, 05:23:48 PM »
Hey there I just purchased countless older laptops, mostly between P100 and P266. I know what to expect selling them on eBay, and that's where most of them will likely be sold. I am just curious if there is any inerest here in some of them?

My thinking is these would be good for either AROS or even more so WinUAE. UAE JIT on a P266 should deliver over 060 performance and on a P100 ~040 performance. These would make cheap ~Amiga laptops as they would only be selling on eBay for ~$75-$250 price range (very rough ballpark).
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2003, 05:40:22 PM »
750USD for a P266 laptop? That much? Perhaps I should try auctioning my old P133 laptop.

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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2003, 05:41:42 PM »
"060/040-performance"

That is if those old CPUs do work with JIT and if the laptops have enough
RAM to serve host-OS, UAE, JIT-cache, Z3-MEM and GFX-MEM.
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2003, 05:44:57 PM »
Bout the prices:

In early 2002 I bought a Dell-laptop at a computer fair.

Celeron 550mHz, 64mb, ATI-Rage, 6gb-HD, CD,Floppy, bag (a good one),
charger, battery, 10mBit-Ethernet-card and a extenal mouse. (+Win98)

All completly unused for 600 Euro.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2003, 05:46:33 PM »
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750USD for a P266 laptop? That much? Perhaps I should try auctioning my old P133 laptop.


WHOOPS!! :-o  :-o

Let me go change that!! :-o
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2003, 05:46:46 PM »
I got an PII 450 Laptop that I run WinUAE on, but since the onboard gfx card is only equipped with 2,5 MB RAM it's dog slow anyway. :\
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2003, 05:47:56 PM »
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Bout the prices:


It was a typo!!! :-D
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2003, 06:17:27 PM »
I personally have a couple of compaq armadas 266 mmx laptops... They are much slower than even my old desktop 133@200 which does not even have mmx.. I managed to run fellow quite ok on it though but winuae was so so...

I have not tested aros on it yet
 

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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2003, 06:27:16 PM »
@Thomas

That's odd, you must have very low system memory? i guess I will have to test a few when I get a chance:-)
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2003, 06:30:22 PM »
No way can a P266 deliver 060 performance.  Nor can a P100 deliver 040 performance.  There's overhead involved in the emulation, not to mention the OS, etc.  I'd say the P266 could emulate a fast 020 and the P100 could do a nice 68k but not faster.
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2003, 06:30:37 PM »
Any of those have a USB port on em? I need one for my rockets... (no foolin, I build and launch big real rockets). What models? I'd prefer getting something that has an easily replaceable battery pack (most older laptops have dead cells).
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2003, 06:32:08 PM »
@adolescent

Have you ever tried the new WinUAE with JIT? It is VERY fast as long as you have enough RAM.
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2003, 06:34:17 PM »
@Jagabot

I will be testing and sorting starting tommorow, I will have more information soon. I would think at least some of the ~P266 models would have USB. i will resurrect this thread as soon as I have more info.
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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2003, 06:39:30 PM »
I used to run Amithlon on a P2-266mhz laptop, and it was rougly 060@50 performance, according to a lot of test we did in csaa.

Amithlon is roughly 2x the speed of UAE-JIT,   so your figure might be just a bit off  :-)

Never the less, it could make a fine Amiga laptop, using the right emulator and some Mem.  
 

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Re: Any interest here in oldish X86 laptops?(AROS UAE etc)
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2003, 06:50:29 PM »
Yes, I used WinUAE with JIT on my old AMD K7-700 and 256M RAM and it's (sometimes) very fast.  But, the benchmarks are misleading.  On some tests, the speeds show 060 speeds.  But, in normal use it's much slower.  Try running benchmarks other than SYSSPEED and you'll see the difference.
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