Hyperion Entertainment CVBA and Amiga Inc. reach settlement

[orb85750]

Maybe this means that we'll rise up again.
Maybe there will be brand new Amiga branded machines and we'll get again our identity back!

I have in mind a couple of Amiga-based machines so we can find again in our shops an Amiga branded machine... i can imagine in shopping malls along the Apple Stores we'll find and Amiga Store... maybe I'm dreaming but I WANT TO BELIEVE

YES, AMIGA BRANDED MACHINES IS THE ONLY WAY THAT AMIGA WE'LL EVER REGAIN FULL IDENTITY, even if the machines can be purchased only via the internet for the time being.  Porting to this or that machine to be installed by this or that hobbyist is small thinking, IMO (but it still beats being held hostage by AI).

[klx300r]

FINAL..FRAKIN..LY !!!...(where's those damn dancing banana's)

[actung_bab]

this is awsome well done l got say you stuck it out hyperian well done to you
l got say what awsome company l support what ever you plan got me as customer

[eithelnim]

Thats a great news! If it would stay in hands of Amiga Inc it wouldn't go anywhere,as they didn't have a vision.
 There is a few ways Hyp. could go now and make some profit to expand+promote, in my opinion that would be the best for (almost) everyone:
 
 Keep working on OS4 and new versions, but now focus on something like this - start making own AMIGA branded models, but let PC,Mac users have AmigaOS available for it, with special PCIx card with system Core on it (this one would be made only by Hyp. and could be named simply AmigaCore) and sell Amiga Logo license for third part companies to make Amiga clones.  Plus could sell Amiga branded keyboards, mouses,even monitors. etc. for new users who would invest only in AmigaCore card.
 If anyone of Hyperion read it - I have more ideas and I wouldn't say no if you offer me a job hahaha
 What changes you could make in system (after things like good browser and other software is sorted) to make it more interesting for potential users - promote it as a main OS on user`s PC (so it need to be as stable as possible,but Amiga Core card could help it - system could be run from fast chips,which are not so expensive anymore) and make extremely reliable WinXP and W7 emulation (if possible included in the system, but You would have to buy legal W$) or simply 2 systems on same PC.
Another cool idea is some kind of compatibility with Linux and package of other systems emulation included in OS (clic-n-go system for old Amiga, c64,atari,nintedo,sega games etc.) and cool new Amiga brand pads
 Is that look a bit too much? I don't think so. There is plenty of people out there sick of W$ and would welcome some alternative (hopefully not as expensive as Mac). And if AmigaCore card (with AmigaOS4+ DVD) could be sold for 200-300 euro it would make it profitable and interesting.
 What do you think guys?

[Amithony]

Does anyone know how much Amiga inc is "worth" in terms of $ and cents? What would it cost to put the tech into the right hands?

[gertsy]

Editorial: If you take away the outstanding rent they owe... around $3.40c.

[Wayne]

Congratulations to Hyperion & the Legal team.

@ Wayne

Sods law about this re: selling this site

@Editor,

I have no qualms about selling the Web site, regardless of what obsolete and unobtainable hardware Hyperion choose to port the OS to.  I'm not even quite sure I'd care if they ported it to an off-the-shelf, current, Intel Mac to be honest.

The problem I see, and have always seen, is that regardless of who the "winner" of the lawsuit turned out to be, the OS is still absolutely worthless without three things.  Cheap and fast commodity hardware, programmers and software.

This is 2009, soon to be 2010, and we are a far cry from the massive development community of 1987/88.  Back in those days, there were far fewer choices for developers.  Namely, there was Unix, PC running DOS, Mac, or the Amiga, and the specs on the Amiga were 10x any of the others at the time.

Now, that's simply not the case any more, and frankly, it'll be impossible to attract any real development base to any future OS platform *unless* Hyperion pull the stick out and port it to modern, cheap, commodity hardware (aka Intel)..

In regards to Hyperion and all this talk of porting, please keep in mind that they did NOT win the right to develop new hardware and/or call it an "Amiga".  They simply -- apparently -- won the rights to AmigaOS 4.x...    It would still be up to Amiga Inc (from what I understand as an armchair lawyer) to develop any hardware to match the OS if you want some new machine to be labeled an "Amiga".

edit: back to the point though...  I'm at a point in my life (unemployed without prospects, and quickly approaching bankruptcy) where -- even if Hyperion does port it to something top-shelf, I can't guarantee I'll be interested.  As such, better the site goes to a new team with fresh eyes and a more dedicated heart than for me to keep passively participating.

Wayne

[hbarcellos]

I'm just waiting Amiga OS 4 to be ported to x86 or PPC Mac (Powermacs and Powerbooks plz) to order my copy. The rest is up to Hyperion strategists.
I would focus on porting Firefox flawlessly, or maybe chromiun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chromium_(web_browser)

Most of the time ppl are using browsers anyway. Even for office applications...

[ajlwalker]

Good news.

I have to say this has removed a pretty significant barrier to me taking the plunge on OS4.x

I'm sure others feel the same.

[amyren]

I feel there is some information missing about the agreement. An agreement is normally made by two parties that find that they get some benefits from the agreement.

Hyperion get the rights to the OS, but what did Amiga Inc get out of it?

Did Amiga Inc realize they were in deep sh*t, and just made the agreement to avoit a counter-lawsuit?
And who is paying for the lawsuit anyway - lawyers are far away from cheep. Amiga is claimed by many to be near bankrupt, and I guess Hyperion havent been making to much money on OS4 sales to pay everything either..

[orb85750]

Well, just call the new hardware AmigaOS [whatever], such
as "AmigaOS Workstation" -- but maybe I shouldn't argue with
an armchair attorney :-)

@Editor,

I have no qualms about selling the Web site, regardless of what obsolete and unobtainable hardware Hyperion choose to port the OS to.  I'm not even quite sure I'd care if they ported it to an off-the-shelf, current, Intel Mac to be honest.

The problem I see, and have always seen, is that regardless of who the "winner" of the lawsuit turned out to be, the OS is still absolutely worthless without three things.  Cheap and fast commodity hardware, programmers and software.

This is 2009, soon to be 2010, and we are a far cry from the massive development community of 1987/88.  Back in those days, there were far fewer choices for developers.  Namely, there was Unix, PC running DOS, Mac, or the Amiga, and the specs on the Amiga were 10x any of the others at the time.

Now, that's simply not the case any more, and frankly, it'll be impossible to attract any real development base to any future OS platform *unless* Hyperion pull the stick out and port it to modern, cheap, commodity hardware (aka Intel)..

In regards to Hyperion and all this talk of porting, please keep in mind that they did NOT win the right to develop new hardware and/or call it an "Amiga".  They simply -- apparently -- won the rights to AmigaOS 4.x...    It would still be up to Amiga Inc (from what I understand as an armchair lawyer) to develop any hardware to match the OS if you want some new machine to be labeled an "Amiga".

edit: back to the point though...  I'm at a point in my life (unemployed without prospects, and quickly approaching bankruptcy) where -- even if Hyperion does port it to something top-shelf, I can't guarantee I'll be interested.  As such, better the site goes to a new team with fresh eyes and a more dedicated heart than for me to keep passively participating.

Wayne

[ToddH]

Port OS 4 to Intel hardware and I'll happily order a copy the day it's released. Keep it on obscure PPC hardware and I'm staying away.

[oceancrafts]

Absolutely fabulous news! I'll keep my fingers crossed for that x86 port and maybe amiga branded intel based hardware from acube... I'll be there!

[Tron2k2]

@Wayne sorry to hear about your troubles :-(  I'm not exactly sitting on fat stacks of cash either at the moment.  The United States economy is pretty much failing-all the money's at the top and staying there.

I really couldn't say what Amiga are doing for money.  Apparently, not selling OS4.  It makes me wonder why they don't get it together and become the games/apps portal for Android phones-Amiga did actually invent the iPhone app store concept, if the execution (and to be fair, the technology and vision on the part of 'partner' companies) was lacking.  

One of the biggest complaints about non-iPhone OSes and the equipment that they run on, is no centralized app store.  Once again Amiga invents it, then Apple comes out with it five years later and acts like they thought of it :-/

I go off on this cel phone tangent because Amiga themselves supposedly went off on it several years ago.  Supposedly they had a crew of East Indian programmers working on whatever it was they were/are working on.  if their AA concept could work seamlessly with one executable on RIM devices as well as on Android, they'd be sitting on fat stacks of cash pretty quickly.

Sadly, I kinda doubt they have the gumption to get this done.  But I'd happily be proven wrong..

[weirdami]

From the looks of things so far as they have been going over the years with regard to the people at Hyperion and whatnot, I think that Hyperion might be a good thing for whatever the Amiga platform is. I don't really have any feeling one way or the other as far as this ruling goes because I would have been fine with either company owning AOS. Anyhoo, it is good that it's finally over.

[illy5603]

YES, AMIGA BRANDED MACHINES IS THE ONLY WAY THAT AMIGA WE'LL EVER REGAIN FULL IDENTITY, even if the machines can be purchased only via the internet for the time being.  Porting to this or that machine to be installed by this or that hobbyist is small thinking, IMO (but it still beats being held hostage by AI).

If your business is the OS, as it is for Hyperion, then it makes sense to get the OS on as many computers as possible. If I could throw WB 4.1 on one of my old Intel PC's sitting around, I would probably buy it and do so but I am not buying a PPC system just to run it.
 
Amiga branded system, yeah that would be nice but I don't see it happening.