Question about GLOWICONS!!

[barney]

Thanks for the info.  I did find a demo version of classact on aminet.net.  In installed it and OS 3.5 installed perfectly.  Funny thing is that my icons didn't change at all.  They are the same icons as in OS 3.1.  Is this bizarre?  Shouldn't they be somewhat different?

[barney]

Methuselas, I tried what you mentioned about replacing the icons.library from 3.9 to 3.1 but that didn't seem to do anything.  Just to make sure I did it correctly, are you saying to take the small file "icon.library" and drop it in the "Libs" folder in 3.1?  The funny thing is that this libs file is extremely small.  Am I also supposed to move the entire list of icons from the OS 3.9 disk over to my OS 3.1 installation?  If I need to also do this, where do I copy these icons to?  Thanks.

Barney

[NovaCoder]

It's just soooo much easier to upgrade your OS to 3.9

[barney]

I did upgrade to OS 3.9 and I find it too slow on my Amiga 2000.  I am going to re-install 3.1.  I find it much quicker on my machine.  I was just thinking that it would be nice to have to glow icons from 3.9 instead of the boring 3.1 icons.

Barney

[Cammy]

You can't just copy the library file over and expect all the icons to instantly change! Copying the library over only makes the 3.5 icons compatible with your system, you still have to go out and install them all.

You could also try and get ahold of the two commercial Glow Icons Collection CDs which have hundreds of megs of original GlowIcons in both NewIcons and 3.5 format, so you can install the NewIcons on any 3.x system without needing the 3.9 icon library. I have a feeling that icon library depends on the 3.9 picture.datatype too, although I'm not sure.

[cha05e90]

I have a feeling that icon library depends on the 3.9 picture.datatype too, although I'm not sure.

And there *might* be a clash of the old OS3.1 workbench.library with a newer icon.library. I would use NewIcons with OS3.1 - and not mix up different OS releases.

[barney]

This may sound like I am an idiot CAMMY but how do I install the actual icons.  Is there a particular folder I can just dump them in or do I have to assign each icon where to go?  Either way, I have never done this before so could sombody explain it to me.  Thanks.

Barney

[mr_a500]

Actually, if you replace the icon.library from 3.1 with the one from 3.5 or 3.9, a Workbench 3.1 install will display glow icons.

But, you didn't hear that from me. XD

It's a good thing we didn't hear it from you because that doesn't work.

[Karlos]

This may sound like I am an idiot CAMMY but how do I install the actual icons.  Is there a particular folder I can just dump them in or do I have to assign each icon where to go?  Either way, I have never done this before so could sombody explain it to me.  Thanks.

Barney

There are two classes of icon. Actual icons and default icons. Actual icons are .info files for individual files and directories. These are the ones you need to replace  by hand.

Default icons are icons that are used to represent all those files and directories that do not have their own unique .info file. These generally live in SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys and have names like def_.info.

Under OS3.1 and earlier, the only default icons that are recognised are def_tool, def_project, def_drawer and def_disk (and def_trash, maybe). In order to have different default icons for different types of file, you need a patch like deficons. This uses a database to inspect files to see what they really are and then choose an appropriate default icon from a larger selection.

OS3.5+ has this functionality included by default.

[Karlos]

Additionally, if you install Deficons, you might also want to install HappyEnv. This replaces your RAM:Env assignment with a dedicated device driver that is optimized for small files and implements a "load on first request" policy.

Without it, everything in SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/Sys is copied to ENV:Sys (which is in RAM) on boot. If you have many default icons, this both wastes memory and slows down your boot times. HappyEnv mitigates this considerably.

[Cammy]

Barney, I'm going to try sending you a private message, can you reply here if you get it?

[MozzerFan]

It's a good thing we didn't hear it from you because that doesn't work.

Yes it does. Just copy setpatch, workbench.library and icon.library from os3.9 to os3.1.

[mr_a500]

Yes it does. Just copy setpatch, workbench.library and icon.library from os3.9 to os3.1.

The point was that you can't just copy icon.library.

I did all this years ago and I remember there was something which made me forget it and give up - instead converting 3.9 icons to use in 3.1. (possibly you need the crap picture.datatype, or the setpatch was screwing something up for me... I forget)

[barney]

Thanks Cammy, I got your message.

Barney