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Windows XP
« on: October 30, 2003, 03:13:23 PM »
I just bought a new laptop with Windows XP pre-installed and going to give it a bit of test drive tonight
so i would be interested in reading some of good/bad
points and tips -sensible comments ?  :-D
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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2003, 03:15:54 PM »
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I just bought a new laptop with Windows XP pre-installed and going to give it a bit of test drive tonight
so i would be interested in reading some of good/bad
points and tips -sensible comments ?  :-D


The first thing I did on my Laptop was get rid of all the XP eye candy and configure it for best performance over visual effects.

I know it's  3ghz laptop, but I want my machine to be really fast :)

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2003, 03:18:12 PM »
One fairly obvious one is that if you're carrying sensitive data around make sure it's secure/encrypted in case it gets nicked...

Nothing else particularly springs to mind...
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 03:23:07 PM »
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The first thing I did on my Laptop was get rid of all the XP eye candy and configure it for best performance over visual effects.

I will concur with this.  Some laptops are very slow when compared to desktop machines.  The first thing I did when I got my Dell Inspiron 4150 (thankfully I didn't purchase it ... got it from my company) was disable every piece of eye candy I could find "shut off switches" for.  One that caused a HUGE performance problem was the "Show shadows under menus" option.  With that turned on, simply clicking to open and moving the mouse around in the Start menu drove the CPU to 90+% utilization.  Extrememly slow performance!  Disabling that and everything else for eye candy makes it bearable.  I still think it's slower than molasses in January for what it's running on, but I can't really do anything else to it without violating my company's computer use policies.
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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2003, 03:24:03 PM »
Run Windows update to see if there are any pathes you don't have preinstalled can save you alot of trouble.
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2003, 03:33:06 PM »
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I will concur with this. Some laptops are very slow when compared to desktop machines.


The main thing that really gets on my nerves with my laptop (Dell C400) is the really slow disk.  A benchmark on my PC's disk comes out at around 35 - 40MB/sec.  The same benchmark on my laptop comes out between 5 - 10MB/sec.  As my laptop has an absurd amount of RAM (half a gig, absurd IMO), I allocate half of that to a ramdisk and install OpenOffice and Mozilla to there.

At least it runs silent or very near silent :-)
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2003, 03:35:30 PM »
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I just bought a new laptop with Windows XP pre-installed and going to give it a bit of test drive tonight
so i would be interested in reading some of good/bad
points and tips -sensible comments ?


Yes, first things first IMO, reinstall the OS with a proper install CD (rather than recovery CD which just contains an image if the usual poor factory install).  The install guide for win2k on my site can mostly be applied to WinXP as well.
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2003, 03:45:06 PM »
The best way to speed up a laptop aside from adding more memory,  is bying a 2.5" 7200RPM disk. Most laptops have 2.5" 5400RPM disks which are quite slow when you're used to a 3.5" 7200RPM desktop disk.
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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2003, 03:45:23 PM »
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I just bought a new laptop with Windows XP pre-installed and going to give it a bit of test drive tonight
so i would be interested in reading some of good/bad
points and tips -sensible comments ?


Yes, first things first IMO, reinstall the OS with a proper install CD (rather than recovery CD which just contains an image if the usual poor factory install).  The install guide for win2k on my site can mostly be applied to WinXP as well.


Cheers Mike, I'm gonna check over your sit in case I've missed anything. Where abouts do I look on your site?

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2003, 03:49:39 PM »
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Cheers Mike, I'm gonna check over your sit in case I've missed anything. Where abouts do I look on your site?


"Windows AdminCentral" (desperately for lack of a better name).  It's linked off the front page, but here's the direct URL to it: http://www.legolas.com/wac/
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2003, 03:55:59 PM »
Of course be sure you have the drivers around for the hardware before you reinstall WinXP.  

One of the reasons laptops come with a recovery CD is in their early releases the hardware components may not have default loads out of the Windows XP CD.  Thus, you need those drivers to get everything working properly.  
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2003, 04:00:01 PM »
I would suggest checking out www.TweakXP.com/, I'm sure you'll find some useful tips there. I recommend going over your services and disabling the ones that you don't need (things like the Indexing service are often not needed).

I would also suggest tracking down a copy of the Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer and ensure your system is secure.

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2003, 04:08:19 PM »
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I would suggest checking out www.TweakXP.com/, I'm sure you'll find some useful tips there. I recommend going over your services and disabling the ones that you don't need (things like the Indexing service are often not needed).


I just had a quick browse around and I wouldn't advise taking what they say for gospel.  For example, two articles, one named "disable automatic updates", then another a page down "disable automatic updates properly", both contain different solutions, and yet only both combined will probably disable automatic updates and keep it from using up memory.

Heh - an even better one - two articles both about installing without ACPI, it just doesn't bother advising that maybe one ought to disable ACPI in the BIOS before starting the install  :lol:
 

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2003, 04:14:51 PM »
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I would suggest checking out www.TweakXP.com/, I'm sure you'll find some useful tips there. I recommend going over your services and disabling the ones that you don't need (things like the Indexing service are often not needed).


I just had a quick browse around and I wouldn't advise taking what they say for gospel.  For example, two articles, one named "disable automatic updates", then another a page down "disable automatic updates properly", both contain different solutions, and yet only both combined will probably disable automatic updates and keep it from using up memory.

Heh - an even better one - two articles both about installing without ACPI, it just doesn't bother advising that maybe one ought to disable ACPI in the BIOS before starting the install  :lol:


Talking of BIOS's my crappie BIOS doesn't have an option to enable HT on my CPU, even though my CPU support such an option...

Any ideas as to how I can enable HT?

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Re: Windows XP
« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2003, 04:19:00 PM »
1) Backups!
     All systems the first thing you should do is backup the software in it's present state.  You never know if a RecoveryCD might go bad then you're stuck.  So, backup those included CD's.

2) Driver Download
     Next step is to gather the latest drivers for all your hardware and burn to a CD.  Nothing can be more frustrating when you need a NIC driver and can't get on the internet to find it.

3) Software Update
     Run Windows Update.  There's lots of updates to be applied most likely.  Having a DSL/Cable modem for this is a good idea bringing to somewhere, like work, where you have more bandwidth will help speed the process along.  Please check with work to see if they'll allow you to do this.

4) Clean UP
    Notebooks often come with AOL and other services you may not want.  Delete them to help clean up the system.  

5) Further clean up
     Loading a newer version?    Some notebooks come with MS Works and frequently users run MS Office.  So, remove MS Works.  Don't forget to check for other things like this.

6) Backup!
     You've now updated the OS with all the patches, you've removed the components of the 'free extra software' that you'll not be using.  Make a backup of your system.  That way if you need to recover you can restore to a better state then what the recovery CD will give you.

7) Hardware Driver Update
       This has been better then in the past but hardware drivers you downloaded in 2 should now be applied and checked.  Load a driver and check out the functions.  Windows XP has a roll-back feature which will auto uninstall the driver for you if it doesn't work.  It's useful so be sure to optimize it.

8) Software Install
      Now install Office and the software you're going to run.

9) Optmize interface
      Some people want the speed out of a notebook and clicking some of the WinXP fancy interface features off can give you this.  One quick way to do this is turn on the Classic Win2000 interface this helps to reduce the newer geegaws that are in XP.  But, this can be a slow process.

10) Backups
     Don't forget to include backups.  This is probably the most frequent end  user mistake.  They will backup at some time and never seem to get around to it.   Once they lose everything then they decide to start backing up next time.    This not only goes for Windows but for any other system.  Backups make things so much easier.

11) Amiga Forever or UAE
     If you aren't going to use Amithlon, which is limited for notebooks, I'd recommend Amiga Forever.  This is an Amiga site after all isn't your true goal to run the Amiga Workbench and software?