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Offline Plaz

Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 25, 2009, 02:17:08 PM »
@DiskDoctor

ANN.lu V2.0? I miss that one. Big problem however for any news feed today is the lack of news.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #30 on: July 25, 2009, 02:27:56 PM »
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I usually visit amiga.org, amigaworld.net and amigans.net.   Amigaworld.net was the main OS4 support site for a few years, so that is where I post most often.  Many, but not all, devs have setup support forums on amigans.net.  That site has strict rules of behaviour, so I suppose they feel safer there.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #31 on: July 25, 2009, 02:54:26 PM »
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ANN.lu V2.0? I miss that one. Big problem however for any news feed today is the lack of news.

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Actually I meant two things:

1) news feed (not too many of'em are there though)

2) new forums posts feed <-- this one would do the job!
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #32 on: July 25, 2009, 02:55:47 PM »
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AFAIK, the last few Pegasos1's had the A660BNGE revision (the "fixed" revision) of the Articia S,

Could be, but I bet that was only because those were the only chips available. To my knowledge it was very hard to get any chips from Mai Logic. In fact, on occasion external third party had to step in before the already paid chips were delivered.
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and a handful of them was even sold in a G4 bundle, but indeed there were still issues.

I've heard of only one somewhat working Pegasos1 with a G4 (I actually demoed it at assembly 2003):
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/113-1344_IMG.JPG
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/Assembly03_Pegasos_G4_Specs.jpg
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #33 on: July 25, 2009, 03:01:07 PM »
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A bit like amigann?


I'm not possitive but I think that site just tried to load some malware on my windows box. Some thing call "secure service" attemped to load. Google shows the site as clean though, so I'm not sure where that just came from. My host of 4 different scanners/cleaners show I'm clear ATM.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #34 on: July 25, 2009, 03:01:58 PM »
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@DiskDoctor

ANN.lu V2.0? I miss that one. Big problem however for any news feed today is the lack of news.

Plaz


I loved ann.lu

I think CK closed it down because of the amount of crap that was being posted, as much as anything else.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #35 on: July 25, 2009, 03:07:23 PM »
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Probably due to the more technical nature of this site, they would have to post more indepth posts... A quick look at the last posts by them on AmigaWorld show little to interest the average user of this site.


True.

Check out this page about the "Secret project of Hyperion"
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29177&forum=2

It is pure vague speculative nonsence.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #36 on: July 25, 2009, 03:22:01 PM »
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These news site you showed is rather manually gathering selected news, plus references (I saw it for five seconds).  What I meant is an unmanned portal - automatical news/forum topic extraction.


I could be wrong, but I think AmigaNN aggregates various RSS feeds rather than relying on manual work.

see here for more info.

Didn't realise there were still problems with malware - there was a deliberate attack on the server that hosts AmigaNN and various other sites a while back. Thought it had been cleared up.

I only visit the site under AmigaOS, so no problems here :-)
 

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« Reply #37 on: July 25, 2009, 03:24:38 PM »
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2) new forums posts feed <-- this one would do the job!



#2 would be nice. I'm on other forums that update you with the latest posts on threads you want to follow. Nice feature.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #38 on: July 25, 2009, 03:35:09 PM »
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Didn't realise there were still problems with malware - there was a deliberate attack on the server that hosts AmigaNN and various other sites a while back. Thought it had been cleared up.

I only visit the site under AmigaOS, so no problems here :-)


Normally I'm using Opera or Firefox on the PC. This morning I'm being lazy, and see what it gets me?  :)  Not 100% sure it was amigann or not, but I visited the page, the browser locked up, I killed all my open browers, relaunched IE and got virus scanner warnings immediately after. Then I spend the next 15-20 minutes manually running my scanners to be safe. I'd revisit for another test, but I don't feel like spending more time flirting with malware, too many choirs waiting on my and I guess it's time to get to some of them. Maybe later I'll fire up a virtual box that I can roll back if it gets infected and check again.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #39 on: July 25, 2009, 03:42:12 PM »
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Normally I'm using Opera or Firefox on the PC. This morning I'm being lazy, and see what it gets me?  :)  Not 100% sure it was amigann or not, but I visited the page, the browser locked up, I killed all my open browers, relaunched IE and got virus scanner warnings immediately after.
The website is infected with pharming attacks: As soon as you browse the site the malicious code will attempt to take over your system by using multitudes of different methods, including infected swf and pdf documents abusing vulnerabilities in Flash player and Adobe Acrobat.

The malicious files are hosted in chinese (.cn) domains.

It is quite likely that amigann is innocent victim here aswell, and the site has been hacked. I'll investigate further soon. Meanwhile, I am urging caution when browsing the site. Even better, avoid the site altogether.

update1:

As far as I can tell the malware comes from malicious google ads. Suspicious URLs look like:
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http://****mail.org/licky/etChunksFrom.swf
http://****anag.cn/rf/fromFactLooks.swf
http://****ci.cn/redirect/include/spl.php?stat=Linux|Mozilla%205.0|FI|Mozilla
« Last Edit: July 25, 2009, 04:11:07 PM by Piru »
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #40 on: July 25, 2009, 03:47:19 PM »
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The malicious files are hosted in chinese (.ch) domains.

Swiss domains, actually. :)

(I've been confused by this as well)

EDIT: No longer relevant due to typographical corrections by Piru. I'll leave this post up as an educational aid :)
« Last Edit: July 25, 2009, 04:41:57 PM by Matt_H »
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #41 on: July 25, 2009, 03:50:43 PM »
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Could be, but I bet that was only because those were the only chips available. To my knowledge it was very hard to get any chips from Mai Logic. In fact, on occasion external third party had to step in before the already paid chips were delivered.

Yep, and I think it was only about 24 chips or so in that last delivery that had that revision number. But it was enough for bplan to make the conclusion that the "fixed" revision was still bug ridden. Anyway, I completely agree with you that you can't really compare the A1 (*any* version) with a Pegasos 1 when it comes to stability and quality. Those boards played in completely different leagues even.

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I've heard of only one somewhat working Pegasos1 with a G4 (I actually demoed it at assembly 2003):
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/113-1344_IMG.JPG
http://saku.amigafin.org/yhdistys/tapahtumat/assembly03/kuvat/Assembly03_Pegasos_G4_Specs.jpg

I don't know why, but the number "5" pops up in my mind regarding this. Anyway, I know of at least one other Peg1 G4; Ironfist had one, and AFAIK the site "pegasos.org" was hosted on it for a while. But yeah, I guess you *can* dismiss the Pegasos 1 G4 as some experimental/evaluation thing...
« Last Edit: July 25, 2009, 03:53:06 PM by takemehomegrandma »
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #42 on: July 25, 2009, 04:10:14 PM »
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I'm not possitive but I think that site just tried to load some malware on my windows box. Some thing call "secure service" attemped to load. Google shows the site as clean though, so I'm not sure where that just came from. My host of 4 different scanners/cleaners show I'm clear ATM.

Plaz


Same here, it (MSIE8+AVGFree+Win7) locked the site for a while and moved some cr*p to a vault.  The site managed to launch Adobe Reader though.  Anyway I made another visit and first look is just news and links.  I largely mean't NEW FORUM POSTS on any amiga site.  Any Amiga site (wwmaster) plugs in (by providing the proper feed or adjusting API if no new forum feed is avaliable) and then bang, you've got the aggregator.

Instead of checking several sides all the time (several to some, only one for others), you just check all-in-one-place and then redirect yourself to the portal with some conversation you find interesting.

As far as I know it's just a matter of collecting feeds and defining them as a multiple source for some chosen cms.  As I stated above, nice tree-like structure would be crucial, the original portal but also scope like hardware/software etc.

One more remark - if I myself was able to utilize such feature, I would for sure check and read EAB or some other Amiga portals in my locale.  Now I don't mainly because I spend some significant amount of my spare time on Amiga sites already.  Less time = more portals, at least to me.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #43 on: July 25, 2009, 04:12:42 PM »
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Swiss domains, actually. :)

(I've been confused by this as well)

no, chinese. I just typoed there.
 

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #44 on: July 25, 2009, 04:23:41 PM »
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The website is infected with pharming attacks: As soon as you browse the site the malicious code will attempt to take over your system by using multitudes of different methods, including infected swf and pdf documents abusing vulnerabilities in Flash player and Adobe Acrobat.

The malicious files are hosted in chinese (.cn) domains.

It is quite likely that amigann is innocent victim here aswell, and the site has been hacked. I'll investigate further soon. Meanwhile, I am urging caution when browsing the site. Even better, avoid the site altogether.

update1:

As far as I can tell the malware comes from malicious google ads. Suspicious URLs look like:
Code: [Select]

http://****mail.org/licky/etChunksFrom.swf
http://****anag.cn/rf/fromFactLooks.swf
http://****ci.cn/redirect/include/spl.php?stat=Linux|Mozilla%205.0|FI|Mozilla


Man, this is ill.

How in the hell could Google, Inc. help in delivering malicious content to the users??  Do they have a disclaimer in their ad argreement that they aren't responsible for the content?  Is this LEGALLY correct?

You know G Inc is some sort of a virgin in an IT world.  They made cool search, cool video storage (by buying it), coll ajax mail, cool cellphones, browser, but unlike Microsoft or Apple, no one ever sued them yet.  

Maybe it is high time someone did then?

After reading this, I would be first person todo so.
Was: Mac Mini PPC running MorphOS 2.4
Now: Amiga Forever 2010 with AmiKit and AmigaSYS
Not used: Icaros Desktop 1.2 (reason: no wifi)
Planned soon: an OS4 system
Shortly then: a MOS notebook (wifi is a must-have)