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Rougue er all
« on: July 23, 2009, 12:17:26 PM »
Did we do something as a site to miff the os4 devs and hyperion in genearl
 
Them seem to post on other sites but not here. is it beacuse we are mulit os and not just os4 ?
 
Also other sites seem to get hold of rumours we dont hear here. Is it we ignore them or I just miss them or are people less rabid than on amigaworld.net for isntance
 
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2009, 12:48:44 PM »
Rougue?

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Re: Rogue et all
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2009, 01:00:06 PM »
was supposed to say Rogue et all .....:lol:
 
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Re: Rogue et all
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2009, 04:28:28 PM »
Amiga.org seems more focused on classics than Amigans.net and Amigaworld.net that seem more OS4 orientated. Rogue does have an account here I believe.

But we should be glad we don't have the really stupid x86 discussions and accompanying trolls here too IMHO!
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Re: Rogue et all
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2009, 04:34:12 PM »
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Amiga.org seems more focused on classics than Amigans.net and Amigaworld.net that seem more OS4 orientated. Rogue does have an account here I believe.

But we should be glad we don't have the really stupid x86 discussions and accompanying trolls here too IMHO!
Amen to that.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2009, 07:11:08 PM »
The main reason is that many, many years ago the fight over MorphOS vs AmigaOS and AmigaOne vs Pegasos was faught out here. The vocal battle went very high after which AmigaWorld.net was created and a seperate site for MorphOS.
Then the Amiga community split.

In the end the discussion was pretty pointless because ALL AmigaOne and ALL Pegasos were having hardware problems. Also the discussion about both OS was pretty pointless. So basically a lot of people waisted their time argueing about untrue facts.

The grim end result was that the Amiga community deminished in numbers by petty behaviour from both users and developers.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »
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ALL Pegasos were having hardware problems.
They were? I must have a bad memory.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2009, 08:27:42 PM »
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They were? I must have a bad memory.


IIRC, the first Peg 1 models that didn't have the April (I think that's what it was called) fix had the same issues as their A1 counterparts, right?
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 12:08:05 AM »
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The main reason is that many, many years ago the fight over MorphOS vs AmigaOS and AmigaOne vs Pegasos was faught out here. The vocal battle went very high after which AmigaWorld.net was created and a seperate site for MorphOS.
Then the Amiga community split.



If this is true, can it be undone??
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 12:59:16 AM »
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They were? I must have a bad memory.



All of the Amiga-like next gen hardware suffer the same flaw..... lack of market share.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2009, 01:59:44 AM »
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If this is true, can it be undone??


Largely the the battles ended and relative peace returned. Members who did not leave completly for other platforms and interests then settled in to forums where the felt most comfortable whether Amiga.org AmigaWorld.net Amigans.net Morphzone.org A1k.org or EAB.abime.ne

Many now travel between these villages and are generally welcomed. It's polite to respect the local fair and conversation when visiting though. A thread popular on one site, may not be welcome conversation on another.

Truely the only thing that would raise memberships and maybe tighten old bonds would be a new successful platform. It's been 14 years since the CBM demise, chances seem slim to none. OS4, MOS and AROS have made strides, but here we are, and here we may always remain. Except there is always... hope.

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2009, 06:05:54 AM »
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IIRC, the first Peg 1 models that didn't have the April (I think that's what it was called) fix had the same issues as their A1 counterparts, right?
1. Even the pre-april pegasos1 never had the same range of issues the original AmigaONE SE had.
2. Pre-april Pegasos 1 hardly accounts for all Pegasos hardware.
3. The problematic hw were swapped to april fixed ones by the manufacturer.
4. AmigaONE SE hardware issues were never fixed.

AmigaONE SE was claimed to be perfectly working HW, "they're just software issues" and warranty replacement never happened. Yet none of the Articia chips never worked as advertised. Pegasos II was built around different northbridge and never had a single issue. More AmigaONE hardware was built around new revision of the Articia chipset, which was again claimed to be "bug free". But it wasn't. Mai Logic went bust which finally put end to the Articia misery.

So yes, AmigaONE was a spectacular failure, and unfortunately end users had to pay the price.

While Pegasos 1 indeed shares some of the trouble due to using the Mai Logic northbridge, the manufacturer at least worked around the issue and replaced the boards.

So I disagree with the statement that all Pegasos were having hardware problems.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2009, 08:18:25 AM »
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Largely the the battles ended and relative peace returned. Members who did not leave completly for other platforms and interests then settled in to forums where the felt most comfortable whether Amiga.org AmigaWorld.net Amigans.net Morphzone.org A1k.org or EAB.abime.ne

Many now travel between these villages and are generally welcomed. It's polite to respect the local fair and conversation when visiting though. A thread popular on one site, may not be welcome conversation on another.

Truely the only thing that would raise memberships and maybe tighten old bonds would be a new successful platform. It's been 14 years since the CBM demise, chances seem slim to none. OS4, MOS and AROS have made strides, but here we are, and here we may always remain. Except there is always... hope.

Plaz

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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2009, 10:16:34 AM »
I know  all this , was around for it all.
 
Was just wondering why given we do discuss AOS4 on this site, that the devs neever pop in to dicuss things.  We are a pretty firendly bunch these days.
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Re: Rougue er all
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2009, 11:30:39 AM »
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I know  all this , was around for it all.
 
Was just wondering why given we do discuss AOS4 on this site, that the devs neever pop in to dicuss things.  We are a pretty firendly bunch these days.


Probably due to the more technical nature of this site, they would have to post more indepth posts... A quick look at the last posts by them on AmigaWorld show little to interest the average user of this site.
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