Corupt discs

[swift240]

Well ok so now I got my Amiga back in its original state that is back to Desktop.
SO I went to my bedroom wardrobe and got out all my 3 boxes of discs, wow they have not been touched for years and not come in contact with any thing that is likely to create any such damage.

I have found that many are now corrupt and no longer usable, (ohhh boy this is going to be fun) now I got loads of 1.44 floppies, but not enough DD so is there any where these days I can still get those floppy discs from as I need to make loads of new backups. If not then I shall have to use the 1.44 ones.


TIA,


Mike.

[davideo]

Mike

Are you sure it's the disks that are bad and not your drive that's gone west?

Have you got another drive to try them on?

Dave G

[swift240]

No the drive I am using is a new one from Amigakit.

[save2600]

Perhaps your disks became magnetised by placement near speakers, tele's and actually - lots of instances in your own home that are naturally magnetised by earthen means. Oh, power boxes and any place where ground straps might be can kill magnetic media as well.

And this has been brought up before and you're probably aware of it, but many have complained about formatting HD disks as DD and experiencing all sorts of problems down the road. In the 22+ years of messing around with both 3-1/2" formats, I have not had such bad luck. Guess it might depend on the brand used?

[davideo]

I think if I had a load of disks hidden away and when I got them out - if they showed no sign of damage I'd suspect something other than the disks.

I'm not saying the new drive is bad but I think I'd try other things before writing all the disks off.

Like another Amiga if possible.

Dave G

[Daedalus]

Well, as a test, try format a known good floppy and see if you can read and write it. It's possible that the drive was possibly fine, but one of the first disks you tried was disintegrating, and some of the material from the disk's surface is coating the heads, resulting in problems with all other floppies...

[jrfjunior]

I always avoid using old floppies in my Amiga. All  my oldies (floppies) go to trash. Nowadays is becoming very hard to find 1.44Mb disks in shops. All floppies was replaced by pen drives, CD etc. Happily there is WHDLoad !!!

Well ok so now I got my Amiga back in its original state that is back to Desktop.
SO I went to my bedroom wardrobe and got out all my 3 boxes of discs, wow they have not been touched for years and not come in contact with any thing that is likely to create any such damage.

I have found that many are now corrupt and no longer usable, (ohhh boy this is going to be fun) now I got loads of 1.44 floppies, but not enough DD so is there any where these days I can still get those floppy discs from as I need to make loads of new backups. If not then I shall have to use the 1.44 ones.


TIA,


Mike.

[nishtek]

IMPOSSIBLE.  All disks would not go bad.  I have disks the are from 80s and 90s and all read fine on my pc converted drives.   Looks to me like the the new drive from Amigakit, has not been properly converted for use on amiga?  could have also gotten damaged during transport?
ANYWAY, you shold contact AMIGAKIT not post here.   It is their product and I have no intention of supporting it.  
And test your disks on several amigas.  It could be that the 8520 chips went bad on your amiga?

All of my drives work flawlessly and are tested against a number of disks in my library.  I have CHINNON drives for sale and PC Conv ones.

[swift240]

What do you mean "not post here" I was not saying any thing about the floppy from Amigakit in the first instance, I was talking about corupt floppy's. MY flopys not the Internal Amigakit drive
You may have a thing against Amigakit but I havent, and also if I need to post here as regarding any thing to do with Amiga then I shall do so

OR ARE YOU SAYING that I cant not post here if it is Amigakit related.

DO I need your permission for this?  or should I ask Wayne about it first?

For me on a personal lever I have never had any problems with Amigakit, I have found them very hepfull, but I would find it rather usefull if you would kindly post me a listing of al that I CAN post and CANNOT.
And as a futther matter of interest I have about 500 discs, and from that lot, there is about 30% of them that no longer work.
Or should I blame that on Amigakit?

Mike.

[davideo]

Mike

Have you tried any of these disks in another Amiga or disc drive?

I know you say only about 30% are bad but there may be a small problem wth your kit that is only showing faults on some discs.

If you'd like me to try a couple on my setup - let me know and I'll PM you my address.

Dave G

[nishtek]

Fine.  However, the corrupt disks may seem corrupt because your disk drive may not work properly.  You don't need my permission for anything, this forum is free and I can express my opinion too.  Check those disks in another Chinnon 354 Amiga drive.  Check the disks in another Amiga too.  Mike, the 30% failure seems awfully high.

[amigadave]

Well ok so now I got my Amiga back in its original state that is back to Desktop.
SO I went to my bedroom wardrobe and got out all my 3 boxes of discs, wow they have not been touched for years and not come in contact with any thing that is likely to create any such damage.

I have found that many are now corrupt and no longer usable, (ohhh boy this is going to be fun) now I got loads of 1.44 floppies, but not enough DD so is there any where these days I can still get those floppy discs from as I need to make loads of new backups. If not then I shall have to use the 1.44 ones.


TIA,


Mike.

Try Redrumloa, a member and moderator here who has a store of Amiga goods.  I got a couple of stacks of brand new DD floppy disks from him a few months ago.  He might still have some left to sell.  AmigaKit may also have some to sell, since you have dealt with them already to get the new floppy drive.  I would suggest like others have done that you try another Amiga, another floppy drive in your Amiga, or find some other way to test the floppies and your floppy drive before deciding that 30% of your floppy disks are bad.  Some of them may still be able to be read on different floppy drives that have slight adjustments different than your new drive that allow the disk to be read correctly.  Just slight alignment differences could make the difference between reading the disk or finding several unreadable blocks on the disk.

Good luck finding a solution that will work.  I know that I still have hundreds of original disks that I want to convert to adf's to preserve my library of software, but I also need to learn all the tricks of removing copy protection on some of them, or duplicating the disks with the copy protection in place on others, or lastly learn how to convert disks with copy protection to an adf, or another image format that will allow me to safely preserve all of my original floppies for games, and other Amiga productivity software.

[amigadave]

IMPOSSIBLE.  All disks would not go bad.  I have disks the are from 80s and 90s and all read fine on my pc converted drives.   Looks to me like the the new drive from Amigakit, has not been properly converted for use on amiga?  could have also gotten damaged during transport?
ANYWAY, you shold contact AMIGAKIT not post here.   It is their product and I have no intention of supporting it.  
And test your disks on several amigas.  It could be that the 8520 chips went bad on your amiga?

All of my drives work flawlessly and are tested against a number of disks in my library.  I have CHINNON drives for sale and PC Conv ones.

I didn't see any request from the OP for you to support his disk drive, he is just asking for opinions and help here like a lot of other people do.  No need to get worked up about any of it by either of you.

Is someone having a day that was worse than mine?:confused:

[swift240]

From near were I live there is another Amiga user, most of all the disks that did not work on my Amiga did not work on his, so its fair to say its not the internal floppy drive unit, I am glad to say.

[amigakit]

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@nishtek
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