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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2009, 07:14:33 PM »
the never ending story III :D

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2009, 08:21:21 PM »
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didn't somebody die recently

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2009, 08:42:11 PM »
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2009, 09:10:01 PM »
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the never ending story III :D


SPOILER:

Atreyu dies because Falkor is stuck in court and can't help him on his journey.
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2009, 09:10:34 PM »
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Well, someone, somewhere wins, it just won't be their customers. EDIT: Aside from the time and effort contributed by Amiga, Inc. and Hyperion employees, though, I don't think the Amiga IP is really worth anything. For modern projects, there are much better operating environments available, unencumbered by legal and community bickering. No serious (read: consistently profitable) developer needs the baggage associated with the Amiga.


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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2009, 10:02:50 PM »
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SPOILER:

Atreyu dies because Falkor is stuck in court and can't help him on his journey.


Ah, man. You've gone and brought up what was one of the most traumatic experiences of my film-going childhood--the death of Artax. E.T. going home is up there, too, but E.T. didn't die. (E.T. does, however, continue to visit my nightmares. !@#% aliens.)
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2009, 10:03:35 PM »
@amiga92570

I'll have to watch when I get home. (My iPhone tells me the video doesn't exist.)
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2009, 01:44:12 AM »
I can't see what we have to lose if AInc. loses. On the other hand, if they win, it's the end complete:) (Anyone knows Obituary here ?! ;))
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2009, 01:50:49 AM »
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All I know is that this is a helluva lotta fuss over a now slow, outdated, overpriced system based on dead technology (PPC).  

PPC is far from dead.
Mind you, the Cell processor of the PS3 is PPC based, (as well as the processor of the Xbox 360, which is essentially a slimmed down Cell processor).
And AFAIK a new Cell processor has been released very recently.
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2009, 03:01:39 AM »
Power6 ;)
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2009, 07:15:25 AM »
I dig the GPX demonstration, though I am vaguely concerned about the video footage of copyright violations :)
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2009, 08:24:26 AM »
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PPC is far from dead.
Mind you, the Cell processor of the PS3 is PPC based, (as well as the processor of the Xbox 360, which is essentially a slimmed down Cell processor).
And AFAIK a new Cell processor has been released very recently.


Not to mention that the Wii also uses a PPC based architecture ;)
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2009, 10:03:48 AM »
I've gotta agree with Wayne on this.  Had Amiga and Hyperion co-operated on this while they had the chance, AmigaOS would have had a good chance, but now I think our only hope is AROS.

At least it runs on computers you can actually buy ...
 

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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2009, 12:56:57 PM »
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PPC is far from dead.
Mind you, the Cell processor of the PS3 is PPC based, (as well as the processor of the Xbox 360, which is essentially a slimmed down Cell processor).
And AFAIK a new Cell processor has been released very recently.


PPC as a desktop CPU is dead and buried.  Who is left producing the Cell, Toshiba?  You have IBM pushing the Power CPU, but that's not a desktop CPU.  Freescale has changed it's focus to ARM, and I don't see any future for the AI/Hyperion nor MOS to remain in a dead Arch where they have to live off of used EOL machines or machines they are locked out of.  Can you?
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2009, 01:07:16 PM »
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PPC as a desktop CPU is dead and buried.  Who is left producing the Cell, Toshiba?  You have IBM pushing the Power CPU, but that's not a desktop CPU.  Freescale has changed it's focus to ARM, and I don't see any future for the AI/Hyperion nor MOS to remain in a dead Arch where they have to live off of used EOL machines or machines they are locked out of.  Can you?


I mostly agree. You're only finding PPC in SatNav and SetTop boxes these days. I know that you _can_ find PPC desktop machines but they're not exactly mainstream.

The Xbox360, PS3 and Wii all use PPC chips but again they're not a commodity that just anyone can use. They're for games only basically.
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Re: Amiga vs. Hyperion - Any updates?
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 17, 2009, 01:21:36 PM »
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PPC is far from dead.
Mind you, the Cell processor of the PS3 is PPC based, (as well as the processor of the Xbox 360, which is essentially a slimmed down Cell processor).
And AFAIK a new Cell processor has been released very recently.
Sorry to disagree, but as a DESKTOP processor on a commercial scale, the PPC is, in fact, quite dead.  

Commercially speaking, no one will run out and buy a sub 1ghz desktop machine when they can run out and buy a 3+ghz Intel or AMD for the same price.  

Besides, neither Amiga nor Hyperion are building a game box like the wii or xbox, so your point in this conversation seems rather moot?

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