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Offline trekiej

Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2009, 04:52:21 AM »
Would a workbench replacement be an advantage for OS3.9?
If the WB was replaced could OS3.9 have the bells and whistles of OS4.0?
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2009, 04:54:50 AM »
I would, but it would be too much work to actually do properly. It would have to be forgiving to new users. It would have to be able to "Show" all files and formats naively in a window, without having to keep "turning it on".
And the BIG KICKER would be -it would have to handle all of the most popular compression schemes without having to hunt down tons of "supporting" programs to make them work. This is by far the most frustrating thing to a new user with all the IHA,ADF,DMS, ETC. It would have to "just work" with those formats, just by double clicking on them.
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2009, 05:18:02 AM »
I'd pay for an OS 4.1 for old PPC Macs!
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #17 on: June 30, 2009, 05:22:16 AM »
I would, but I want an accelerator card that can get more from the new OS.
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2009, 06:43:42 AM »
Sorry, I'm about as die hard Amiga as you can get... and I own 11 Amiga A4000s... and I do have OS4 running on a 233mhz PPC... but once my first SAM arrived it's never been turned on since...

And now my second SAM is 1 gig etc... my first SAM doesn't get turned on... well, actually it's only supposed to be a backup board and I assure you it loves the inside of a anti-static bag... Italy is a long way from NZ... lol

I will setup an older Amiga at some stage but not anytime soon...
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2009, 07:27:12 AM »
Would you be willing to pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?

No.

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2009, 08:05:04 AM »
Quote from: slayer;513914
Sorry, I'm about as die hard Amiga as you can get... and I own 11 Amiga A4000s... and I do have OS4 running on a 233mhz PPC... but once my first SAM arrived it's never been turned on since...

And now my second SAM is 1 gig etc... my first SAM doesn't get turned on... well, actually it's only supposed to be a backup board and I assure you it loves the inside of a anti-static bag... Italy is a long way from NZ... lol

I will setup an older Amiga at some stage but not anytime soon...

11 A4000's!!!  You need to sell a few of those to new recruits and make some new Amiga users with half of those machines.  (just a suggestion)
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2009, 08:32:38 AM »
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Would you be willing to pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?

No, I have OS 4.1 and it's enough for my needs.

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2009, 08:54:36 AM »
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But there is AROS since years which is OS3-API compatible so I wonder why nobody ever did an 68k Port for the classics? I am sure it would give the classic users what they need and won't get with AOS3.


compile just AROS is too incompatible, i guess only 1% of 68k programs run then.there are so much problems when AROS run on 68k that it is near impossible to find easy out what the problem is.

So the only way can go is AFA OS.merge more and more AROS funcs in thats new on AROS and let Code that need not change run from OS3.x.So can get with less work a enhanced AOS.AFA OS is no patch, it replace the func complete.and some libs as diskfont library or icon library are 100% replaced.exec can replace by 99% but i dont do, because warpup powerup is load before AFA (when datatypes load)and when AFA replace exec funcs powerup warup do not work

and AFA OS is since years here, run known Bug free and have near same most need features as MOS or OS4.In theory can replace then more and more funcs with AROS code, but my goal is have with lessest work something enhanced stable running with many software.I have not the time to spend work that give me no new features.

also the 68k is dead PPC is future propaganda do the job i think good.
there is less working together on diffrent system MOS AROS OS4 68k see and programs must port twice or more from beginning.

I want use a modern amiga system and PPC AOS is not good enough for me, i want much software as possible and want the software run fast as possible and i dont want a highprice Hardware when i know i can emulate faster as this hardware.

here can see how fast it can be.this test do much memtransfer and when 68k emulate on X86 much byteswap need do.but its very fast

http://utilitybase.com/forum/index.php?action=vthread&forum=21&topic=1720&page=0

and this i can realize most easy when AOS is more and more increase with AROS Parts

I do that for my usage only, and i need no money but i need time, have many hobbies, so also when pay money i do not replace all AOS3 code with AROS code so AFA can boot without AOS components.

sure i know many from PPC side bashes against AFA and say it is crap because it is a patch, but everybody can test it on a UAE AFA run stable and there are no Bugs known currently.

but there is still the kickrom replace bounty
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 09:13:09 AM by bernd_afa »
 

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2009, 10:26:17 AM »
oh, at the beginning i thought a classic version of os4.1 is the subject..
well, i dont know if i would pay for a complete new 68k os. maybe i would not be able to resist to check into it as i wasnt witht the classic os4, but i dont see much point in an os3.x replacement except if it was open source and made the 68k independent of amiga inc licencing.

i find my current os3 build working satisfactory. all the single issues named in this thread can be handled as stand alone apps or patches done independently by single devs and this is how it is done today and most probably in the future. i think this way it is what makes the community interacting, fun and lively, rather than waiting months or years for some release being quietly forged somewhere in the closet.

edit: what i would definitely pay for is a faster hw for os3.x, an accel for my a4k being my fav choice. dont bash me for it.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2009, 10:30:28 AM by wawrzon »
 

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2009, 10:43:31 AM »
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11 A4000's!!!  You need to sell a few of those to new recruits and make some new Amiga users with half of those machines.  (just a suggestion)
@amigadave; I agree, Ive never had an A4000 before so qualify for a new recruit, yeah?.
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2009, 11:13:34 AM »
I would pay up to 1.000 euros if this "update OS3.9" had a Natami bundled with it :-)
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2009, 11:50:24 AM »
In the 1.3 days there was ARP, which was a rewrite of most CLI commands. How many of you remember being excited about ARP? I sure was, did an arpified 1.3 workbench disk as soon as I could get my hands on the package. :-)

Now we have AROS, which is a rewrite of much more.

Embrace that if you want an "updated classic AmigaOS", it's a waste of time debating an upgrade when a rewrite is already well on it's way.
 

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2009, 01:25:04 PM »
I can´t get all this AROS excitement.

Have played with it before, and it´s really interesting. It´s also a huge achievement from all the guys that work at it, and i praise them.

But as it´s incompatible with the software library for OS 3.x, what´s the point in running AROS? It´s a cool system as i said, but it doesn´t replace OS 3.x?

I would not pay for an update though. It´s really difficult to imagine some update that would be written from scratch, without just packaging all the known patches and utilities we have laying around for so long. And as i find entertaining building my system with all these apps, this kind of update would take much of the fun away ;-)
 

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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2009, 06:23:08 PM »
Agreed, most people wont touch AROS with a 10 foot pole.
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Re: Would you pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 30, 2009, 10:26:24 PM »
Would you be willing to pay $100 for an updated Classic AmigaOS?

Eek. Difficult to answer. I probably wouldn't. I'd be more enclined to purchase whatever I need to run 4.1. Not sure. Depends on the day, the medicine, the most current frustrations, broccoli and other factors.